Trump Claims Publication Of Files Absolves Him of Wrongdoing?

There were also many young women groomed by these low life. The language contained in the e-mails flying between everyone involved is disgusting.

The whole thing reeks of misogyny.

I don't envy the researchers who are having to read everything that's coming out.

Yes WhiteWave, in Epstein's circle, women did not have any worth or power.
Maxwell seems to have been the exception.

She was needed to help groom the girls and give them a mother figure.

Ladyleftfieldlover

Oreo: children are legally anyone under the age of 18. Plenty of women have said that when they were under the age of 18 (children) they were sexually assaulted by, amongst others ex-Prince Andrew, Epstein and trump. It’s about time they were believed.

In the UK the age for consensual sex is 16.Sexual assault is illegal at any age.

As is sex trafficking which is what took place.

Whitewavemark2

As is sex trafficking which is what took place.

That goes without saying.

Exactly

How does he attempt to explain the number of times he is mentioned?

Oreo

I agree that he likely means cleared of wrongdoing.
Now has he got dementia or hasn’t he? If he has then nobody could blame him for anything he does or says right now, but they do don’t they? Including very much on this very forum.
I don’t think he has tbh as I work with dementia patients and allI can say is that at the worst he may have the beginnings of it but even that’s very unsure.

He has always mangled his words and talked bilge, hasn't he.

Only a medical examination could provide proof of dementia one way or another.

undines

Here we go again - Trump bashing. It seems to be the main topic on everyone's mind. Here we have grooming gangs still not properly investigated, and we have a royal family, the king and his brother, closely involved with two highly active paedophiles. Among many other crucial topics that I could mention. But let's not ask disturbing questions, let's carry on having a go at our pantomime villain.

Other threads on other subjects are allowed!

As this man's behaviour is of importance to the peace and safety of the world, I think we're allowed to discuss him as much as we like.

He is absolved of absolutely nothing. Based on his own documented history, comments, and his Epstein relationship I would never trust him alone with any vulnerable female whether they are underage or not.

Well, perhaps he's been to see a priest, made confession and been absolved of all his sins.

Ghislaine Maxwell has refused to answer questions from the US House Oversight Committee despite being moved to a low security prison and given an “emotional support puppy”! Meanwhile, photos of the young women trafficked by her and Epstein have been released while the names of the men who abused them were redacted. Mandelson, though undoubtedly guilty of having a dangerous relationship with Epstein, is homosexual. Trump’s White House news conference was yet another distraction from the illegal activities to remove voting rights in immigrant communities. There’s doubt about his dementia but his evil intentions are undeniable.

I read that Maxwell said, through her attorney, she would give testimony that absolves Trump (and Clinton) if he gives her clemency.

abcnews.go.com/Politics/maxwell-expected-invoke-amendment-closed-virtual-house-oversight/story

Allira

Well, perhaps he's been to see a priest, made confession and been absolved of all his sins.

It doesn't work like that, absolution is dependent on true sorrow, shown by doing what you can to remedy the ills your behaviour has caused.

Confession is not a ticket to freedom, it comes with lots of strings.

imaround

I read that Maxwell said, through her attorney, she would give testimony that absolves Trump (and Clinton) if he gives her clemency.

abcnews.go.com/Politics/maxwell-expected-invoke-amendment-closed-virtual-house-oversight/story

And we should believe her!!?

Heck no we shouldn't believe her.

These people are truly evil.

M0nica

Allira

Well, perhaps he's been to see a priest, made confession and been absolved of all his sins.

It doesn't work like that, absolution is dependent on true sorrow, shown by doing what you can to remedy the ills your behaviour has caused.

Confession is not a ticket to freedom, it comes with lots of strings.

Oh dear, I thought posters would realise I was being sarcastic!

You’ll have to use a rolling eyes or wink emoji Allira 😄

Ms Maxwell giving evidence after being given a get- out- of - jail card ( literally) by one of the men named in the files and flight logs?
Perhaps we might feel a little disquiet about the potential veracity of her testimony.....

Chocolatelovinggran

Ms Maxwell giving evidence after being given a get- out- of - jail card ( literally) by one of the men named in the files and flight logs?
Perhaps we might feel a little disquiet about the potential veracity of her testimony.....

As I said on anothe thread - The Maxwells tend to be strangers to truth, decency and the law.

However, her brothers were acquitted of all charges of fraud.

A member of my family lost her pension from the Mirror Group but the Maxwells still live in reasonable style.

Allira

Chocolatelovinggran

Ms Maxwell giving evidence after being given a get- out- of - jail card ( literally) by one of the men named in the files and flight logs?
Perhaps we might feel a little disquiet about the potential veracity of her testimony.....

As I said on anothe thread - The Maxwells tend to be strangers to truth, decency and the law.

However, her brothers were acquitted of all charges of fraud.

A member of my family lost her pension from the Mirror Group but the Maxwells still live in reasonable style.

Yes, that happened to a member of my family.

However I do nto think Ghislaine ever stood a chance. She was one of the younger of Robert Maxwell's children, and his favourite, but even then she had a to deal with a monster of a father who would indulge her one day and treat her with the same violence he used on his other children the next. She grew up around a monster and learned, both how to make the most of his good days and duck and weave on his bad days, and she saw other adults who worked for him doing the same.

Epstein was another rich powerful and malevolent man and she was attracted to them like a moth to a light bulb.

Let me be clear. I am not an apologist for her, but I read the following article by someone who knew he from childhood and has understanding of her, but again is not an apologist, but does give the background that explains why she acted as she did. www.timesofisrael.com/did-father-robert-maxwells-early-abuse-taint-ghislaine-long-before-she-met-epstein/

AGAA4

Focusing on Mandelson and AMW takes the heat off the those men in the US who are being protected but have been involved with Epstein.

You would think that the two British men were the only ones who are guilty. It's about time those in the US were rooted out and faced the consequences.

In the UK the media has conentrated on the two men who were both British citizens and resident here.

I think in the US the attenttion is on their local 'heroes' rather than ours.

Very true M0nica. The fallout is reverberating around the world, and every day people involved are facing the consequences of their actions. Only yesterday a Norwegian ambassador resigned when it was uncovered that Epstein had left her children £10m in his will. The fallout in Norway is not dissimilar to that in the UK, but it’s barely made the news here.