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Future of the Monarchy

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Whitewavemark2 Fri 20-Feb-26 12:14:59

I’ve read and listened to a lot of comment and questions concerning the future existence of the monarchy.

Every commentator believes that this is the most serious issue that the monarchy has faced in recent history, and that is existence may well be under threat - not immediately but as information trickles out over the next few months and years.

I do think that our demographic on GN and attitude towards the monarchy is not typical - and looking at the younger generation I suspect the monarchy has a lot more to worry about, because our values of fairness, meritocracy etc simply doesn’t stand up in a monarchical political system.

I think it will be far worse if justice is not seen to be done regarding Windsor, and I will not be at all surprised if the next generation will sees an end to the monarchy, and certainly young George will never be king.

Maremia Fri 20-Feb-26 13:59:13

Don't think nurses and teachers ever got into so much debt as Fergie.

Fallingstar Fri 20-Feb-26 14:10:11

Maremia

Don't think nurses and teachers ever got into so much debt as Fergie.

True.
And I think many people get into debt because they can’t pay their mortgage and all the household bills. It is easy enough to judge others but it only needs a partner to lose their job and everything suddenly becomes unaffordable.
Some manage better than others because they might have family who can loan them some money or an inheritance etc., or they got better financial advice when buying a house.
I don’t think we will ever know unless we walk in their shoes.

BlueBelle Fri 20-Feb-26 14:15:26

I d be happy with a King and Queen only and they live normally not with these vast riches and huge palaces and owning so much land with loads of family all also on the rich list

Oreo Fri 20-Feb-26 14:18:26

What really annoys me is when people talk of teachers and nurses as if they only earn pennies and have to use food banks.
There are always instances of hardship that can occur but those professionals mentioned can pay their way in most circumstances.

Allira Fri 20-Feb-26 14:20:43

Norah

Anniebach

You would choose to share a home with your,children,grandchildren, brothers,sisters, nieces and nephews?

Who is sharing an enormous home with relatives?

I think it was suggested by a poster that the Royal Family live in affordable housing on one of their private estates.
That suggestion is very odd - if any of us live in private houses which are considered too large for us, should we have our home confiscated and forced to live in the converted garage?

I think many people do not understand the difference between the taxpayer funding the work that the Monarch and other members of the Royal Family carry out and their own private estates and income.

Oreo Fri 20-Feb-26 14:22:52

It’s no good comparing anyone with the RF or anyone else wealthy and privileged.Unless we all want to live in a Communist country, and even then, like the USSR as used to be some were more equal than others.

Indigo8 Fri 20-Feb-26 14:29:46

Tuliptree

This thread is not going to be a real discussion is it? I’ll go back to the similar one on MN

Rather patronising Tuliptree: we are not all sentimental royalists.

Before Charles finally became king, I kept reading that he would streamline and modernise the monarchy, the same things are now being said about William. When the time came, he had a bigger and more lavish coronation than Queen Elizabeth and he has retained all the elaborate ceremonial stuff and some.

Despite the fact that, along with many other GNs, I was born before Queen Elizabeth came to the throne, I belong to quite a large group of people who resent tax payers' money being used to fund the anachronistic, entitled lifestyle enjoyed by too many of the royals for no other reason than they were born into the firm. To put it more simply, I do not believe that hereditary wealth and privilege on such a vast scale should be massively subsidised by the tax payer. I also find the links with the armed forces, the dressing up in silly uniforms and the mass military displays of personnel and deadly weapons sickening.

Recent revelations have shown that the late Queen rigorously connived in covering up the wrongdoings of Andy. I reminded of a quote from 'Animal Farm' by George Orwell "All animals (in the eyes of the law) are equal but some are more equal than others." I added the bracketed statement and I stand by this despite King Charles's recent pronouncement to the contrary.

Despite strenuous efforts and cover ups over the years, enough has leaked out to convince me that there is something rotten at the core of the royal family. Since the abdication of Edward VIII, a known Nazi sympathiser, there have been various scandals the main ones relating to Princess Margaret, Charles's 'close friendship' with Jimmy Savile his long standing affair with Camilla which started before his marriage, continued throughout and led to the scandalous treatment of Princess Diana.

I really can't foresee the future of the monarchy. It is becoming increasingly obvious that it can't go on in it's present form.

I accept that the monarchy is thought to be a shield against Britain falling into a dictatorship but I find the idea that the royals earn their keep by boosting tourism absurd. It is impossible to quantify their influence but recent figures show that other cities like Paris, Rome and Venice attract more visitors per year.

Usedtobeblonde Fri 20-Feb-26 14:31:45

The nurses and teachers I know who live within their means seem to do fine and certainly don’t use food banks.
They have pretty nice cars and holidays too.

BlueBelle Fri 20-Feb-26 14:35:52

Oh come on please don’t compare nurses working all hours God sends to some of these rich parasites There’s a happy in between

Whitewavemark2 Fri 20-Feb-26 14:37:33

Why on Earth getting rid of a monarch means that we are in danger of becoming a dictatorship of a communist economy? A monarchy does not prevent that from happening!

Countries in Europe have got along ok after ridding themselves of their monarchy.

Oreo Fri 20-Feb-26 14:43:21

Whitewavemark2

Why on Earth getting rid of a monarch means that we are in danger of becoming a dictatorship of a communist economy? A monarchy does not prevent that from happening!

Countries in Europe have got along ok after ridding themselves of their monarchy.

It doesn’t nor did I suggest it did.
I was talking to those who were comparing what teachers and nurses earn with the wealthy and privileged.

Oreo Fri 20-Feb-26 14:45:20

The RF do a good job at promoting the UK around the world, help tourism and act as diplomats.
Let’s not throw the baby out with the bathwater.

winterwhite Fri 20-Feb-26 15:22:50

I don’t find the public denouncing of AMW by his brother ànd nephew particularly attractive. Looks too much like trying to save their own skins, which I suppose it is. IMO better to have maintained total silence.

Allira Fri 20-Feb-26 16:28:58

winterwhite

I don’t find the public denouncing of AMW by his brother ànd nephew particularly attractive. Looks too much like trying to save their own skins, which I suppose it is. IMO better to have maintained total silence.

In what way is it denouncing them by offering to fully co-operate with investigators?

Had he said nothing has would have been criticised by posters for hiding information and the knives would be out suggesting he had some involvement.

Tails he loses, heads he doesn't win.

JaneJudge Fri 20-Feb-26 16:49:28

Oreo

What really annoys me is when people talk of teachers and nurses as if they only earn pennies and have to use food banks.
There are always instances of hardship that can occur but those professionals mentioned can pay their way in most circumstances.

I work in education and I wouldn’t be able to pay rent let alone mortgage on my single salary

Why should I feel sorry for this family?

Oreo Fri 20-Feb-26 16:56:15

JaneJudge

Oreo

What really annoys me is when people talk of teachers and nurses as if they only earn pennies and have to use food banks.
There are always instances of hardship that can occur but those professionals mentioned can pay their way in most circumstances.

I work in education and I wouldn’t be able to pay rent let alone mortgage on my single salary

Why should I feel sorry for this family?

I have no idea why ask me?

Oreo Fri 20-Feb-26 16:58:30

Are you a teacher or a teaching assistant or another job in a school Jane Judge as the salaries in ‘education’ vary widely.
Teachers do not require food banks, neither do nurses.

JaneJudge Fri 20-Feb-26 17:11:06

I’m not really allowed to say🤷‍♀️ Oreo
But even so their wealth is vulgar and posters on here are even defending why he has a fucking horse

I give up

JaneJudge Fri 20-Feb-26 17:18:07

If any of you contacted you concerning anything they wouldn’t give a flying fuck

GrannyGravy13 Fri 20-Feb-26 17:20:55

JaneJudge in my personal experience of the Royal Family you are wrong.

Silvershadow Fri 20-Feb-26 17:21:26

I don’t think it’s his own horse but one he borrows to ride while he whiles away his days. A useless man who could be doing charity work under the radar.

JaneJudge Fri 20-Feb-26 17:22:49

My personal experience says I’m right

GrannyGravy13 Fri 20-Feb-26 17:23:31

Silvershadow

I don’t think it’s his own horse but one he borrows to ride while he whiles away his days. A useless man who could be doing charity work under the radar.

He wouldn’t be able to keep under the radar as someone would no doubt tip of the press.

Anniebach Fri 20-Feb-26 17:53:52

Quote Silvershadow Fri 20-Feb-26 17:21:26
I don’t think it’s his own horse but one he borrows to ride while he whiles away his days. A useless man who could be doing charity work under the radar.

Perhaps he does

Samwam Fri 20-Feb-26 18:09:04

Polling shows support for monarchy now only 45%

I am one of the older people for want an elected Head of State.

I don't see the point of monarchy.

They have two dozen houses palaces castles. All with around the clock security have to be heated all year round wether they are there or not.

None of them work everything is done for them. They are an embarrassment to the UK

They are a public body, publicly funded, exempt from freedom of information laws and many laws other laws. Secretive unaccountable.

They have power King's Consent to get their own way and lobbying, all to benefit themselves.

But they can't hold government to account so are pointless..

Get Rid Abolish the monarchy long past time it was gone.