Trumps tariff’s struck down by Supreme Court

I agree keeping. And, here in the US at least, it seems a trend of people telling MAGA voters they did this to themselves when they complain. Some are asking us to "come together" to "solve" this.

Looking for sympathy isn't going as well as they had hoped it would.

AGAA4

He's not a good loser is he.

He's going to thrcream and thcream 'till he's thick!".

His Presidency is on life support now IMO. No one takes him, or MAGA seriously any longer. Even MAGA is turning on him. They no longer have the upper hand. We've seen too much. He will still do damage while he can, but his days are numbered.
We await with bated breath.

Unpredictability is not what we need in this uncertain world.

AGAA4

Trump has put the new tariffs up to 15% now.
May go up or down in the next few days. Who knows

He’s batshit crazy. Excuse my French.

imaround

I'm not sure anyone know the answer MaizieD. This is rather unprecedented.

The average amount per household is $1,700 over the last year. I can certainly spend that money elsewhere. This is nothing but back end corporate welfare and we are getting the short end of the stick, as usual.

Interesting.

What in the world must one buy to account for (dollars) 1700? Am I wrong in assuming tariffs are not on food grown in the US, homes purchases, electricity, petrol, garden trees and supplies, etc?

Fallingstar

AGAA4

Trump has put the new tariffs up to 15% now.
May go up or down in the next few days. Who knows

He’s batshit crazy. Excuse my French.

Yup.

I’m sure I’m not the only one to believe that trump has actually gone quite mad. I mean, doesn’t he realise that it is the American public who will suffer with these tariffs? Have Americans forgotten that he wasn’t a particularly good businessman? How many bankruptcies? I hope this is now the end game and moderate Republicans grow a spine.

Norah

imaround

I'm not sure anyone know the answer MaizieD. This is rather unprecedented.

The average amount per household is $1,700 over the last year. I can certainly spend that money elsewhere. This is nothing but back end corporate welfare and we are getting the short end of the stick, as usual.

Interesting.

What in the world must one buy to account for (dollars) 1700? Am I wrong in assuming tariffs are not on food grown in the US, homes purchases, electricity, petrol, garden trees and supplies, etc?

The tariffs are on imports and the US depends very heavily on imports (which is, of course, what Trump is trying to address) The figure of $1.700 per household is just an average. Industries which depend on imported raw materials or parts will account for a large proportion of it.

Norah

imaround

I'm not sure anyone know the answer MaizieD. This is rather unprecedented.

The average amount per household is $1,700 over the last year. I can certainly spend that money elsewhere. This is nothing but back end corporate welfare and we are getting the short end of the stick, as usual.

Interesting.

What in the world must one buy to account for (dollars) 1700? Am I wrong in assuming tariffs are not on food grown in the US, homes purchases, electricity, petrol, garden trees and supplies, etc?

A new car, white goods, furniture for a start?

MaizieD

Norah

imaround

I'm not sure anyone know the answer MaizieD. This is rather unprecedented.

The average amount per household is $1,700 over the last year. I can certainly spend that money elsewhere. This is nothing but back end corporate welfare and we are getting the short end of the stick, as usual.

Interesting.

What in the world must one buy to account for (dollars) 1700? Am I wrong in assuming tariffs are not on food grown in the US, homes purchases, electricity, petrol, garden trees and supplies, etc?

The tariffs are on imports and the US depends very heavily on imports (which is, of course, what Trump is trying to address) The figure of $1.700 per household is just an average. Industries which depend on imported raw materials or parts will account for a large proportion of it.

I understand the US relies on imports. The number merely seems a bit high average, IF you were not procuring items, merely buying food, eating, washing up, driving, working, sleeping, watching films, or using internet.

I know industries would account for a large portion.

Huge 4x4s and TV, if I understand correctly, vastly important.

I'm not disputing the number, just wondering.

Allira

Norah

imaround

I'm not sure anyone know the answer MaizieD. This is rather unprecedented.

The average amount per household is $1,700 over the last year. I can certainly spend that money elsewhere. This is nothing but back end corporate welfare and we are getting the short end of the stick, as usual.

Interesting.

What in the world must one buy to account for (dollars) 1700? Am I wrong in assuming tariffs are not on food grown in the US, homes purchases, electricity, petrol, garden trees and supplies, etc?

A new car, white goods, furniture for a start?

Indeed. Rare purchases would add to the total tariff total.

Indeed. Rare purchases would add to the total tariff total.

But they are not rare purchases, not as they were years ago. They seem to have built-in obsolescence.
$1,700 is nothing when averaged out over the population.

This is just the AI description on what is affected.

All this rolls downhill. Even if it is manufactured in the US, the components are not, which increases the costs.

The Tax Foundation estimates $1,000 per person. I will go with their numbers. It has all the stats if one is inclined to dig in.

taxfoundation.org/research/all/federal/trump-tariffs-trade-war/

Out of interest I looked to price of a Chevrolet Tahoe 4x4, 70.000usd. Tariffs in 2026 are said to have added 500usd to total.

Subaru Outback (not 4x4) 37.000usd tarriffs added 5k.

Wonder if POTUS tariffs changed purchase patterns to USA produced?

Ladyleftfieldlover

I’m sure I’m not the only one to believe that trump has actually gone quite mad. I mean, doesn’t he realise that it is the American public who will suffer with these tariffs? Have Americans forgotten that he wasn’t a particularly good businessman? How many bankruptcies? I hope this is now the end game and moderate Republicans grow a spine.

I absolutely agree.

"That's according to market research firm J.D. Power, which found 36% of buyers factored in tariffs when purchasing a new vehicle this year, and 87% of those bought sooner than they had planned as a result.

J.D. Power. “Tariffs Accelerate Buying Decisions While Transparency Drives Sales Satisfaction, J.D. Power Finds."

Buyers of vehicles made in Europe and Japan were most affected, according to the survey of 32,616 car buyers released Wednesday."

www.investopedia.com/tariffs-made-car-buyers-buy-sooner-than-planned-11852920

The full impact hasn't been felt yet because, so far, the manufacturers haven't been passing all of the cost to consumers. That changes for 2026.

This chart shows cars made in the US. The problem is that each manufacturer makes parts for various models in other countries, and those tariffs will vary.

That is why the tariff varies from car to car. It depends on the % of parts made in the US and what country the parts come from.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_automobiles_manufactured_in_the_United_States

The #1 US made car? Tesla. And they have an Elon problem so it isn't going as well as it used to.

imaround

This is just the AI description on what is affected.

All this rolls downhill. Even if it is manufactured in the US, the components are not, which increases the costs.

The Tax Foundation estimates $1,000 per person. I will go with their numbers. It has all the stats if one is inclined to dig in.

taxfoundation.org/research/all/federal/trump-tariffs-trade-war/

Interesting. Thank you.

As is his usual, POTUS used backward thoughts.

Whitewavemark2

Ladyleftfieldlover

I’m sure I’m not the only one to believe that trump has actually gone quite mad. I mean, doesn’t he realise that it is the American public who will suffer with these tariffs? Have Americans forgotten that he wasn’t a particularly good businessman? How many bankruptcies? I hope this is now the end game and moderate Republicans grow a spine.

I absolutely agree.

👏 👏 👏

Oh he knows tariffs are paid by Americans. His voters don't know that though, so he gets to do it.

And he is moving money offshore into an account in Qatar (Im not sure if it is tariff money or not), and now taking $10B for his stupid Board of Peace.

He is essentially embezzling taxpayer money and no one is stopping him. He and his family have allegedly made $4B in the last year.

www.npr.org/2026/01/14/nx-s1-5677024/trump-profits-merch-hotels-crypto

I thought it was against the law for presidents to carry on with their businesses when in office?

So why isn’t he being stopped.

Is there anyone with any spine in the USA?

Imaround, how have MAGA or previous MAGA supporters shown their change of mind?

They certainly accept more than we do. Starmer was gifted with glasses and that produced Uproar from some here - how do Trump supporters in the UK justify this?

Farage has gone rather quiet on this, the wonders of Trump and what the US is doing, or am I missing something?

Perhaps Farage is distancing himself from a president who seems to be in decline.

Norah

Out of interest I looked to price of a Chevrolet Tahoe 4x4, 70.000usd. Tariffs in 2026 are said to have added 500usd to total.

Subaru Outback (not 4x4) 37.000usd tarriffs added 5k.

Wonder if POTUS tariffs changed purchase patterns to USA produced?

The problem is that they (and us) do not produce many of these goods any more.
They rely on imports and industries producing these goods, even if home-produced, rely on component parts and raw materials being imported.

It is absolutely illegal for him to earn money or accept gifts. Any gift belongs to the citizens of the US and typically end up at the Smithsonian IIRC.

He doesn't care.

AGAA4

Perhaps Farage is distancing himself from a president who seems to be in decline.

He is yesterday's man- bye bye Farage.

imaround

It is absolutely illegal for him to earn money or accept gifts. Any gift belongs to the citizens of the US and typically end up at the Smithsonian IIRC.

He doesn't care.

Exactly so. This morning I’ve been reading an article published in “Foreign Affairs” and written by a couple of American professors. Extracts below

“Especially in his second term, Trump has instead wielded U.S. foreign policy principally to increase his own wealth, bolster his status, and personally benefit a small circle of his family members, friends, and loyalists.

U.S. foreign policy is now largely subordinate to the private interests of the president and his retainers.

These interests may, from time to time, align with some plausible understanding of the public good. Much more often, however, the Trump administration invokes U.S. national interests to deflect from its self-dealing by eroding the distinction between its private interests and those of the American people…

Many news reports on how Trump’s foreign dealmaking will line his supporters’ pockets still treat such arrangements as side payments, not as the main purpose of his statecraft. But if the administration’s foreign policy were not fundamentally kleptocratic, it would not be systematically attempting to subvert the independence of – or simply disable – the institutions that have long made U.S. foreign policy, including the National Security Council, the State Department, and the Defense Department. This de-institutionalization will almost surely undermine U.S. policymaking for at least a decade”