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Trumps tariff’s struck down by Supreme Court

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Tuliptree Fri 20-Feb-26 17:13:24

Flipping heck - by a majority of 6-3 the USSC has ruled he exceeded his powers in imposing tariffs when there was not a state of national emergency. He is going to be do very very cross - he’ll be sacking the six naughty ones I expect

imaround Sun 22-Feb-26 22:15:07

No I had not. But that is exactly what he looks and sounds like.

Fallingstar Sun 22-Feb-26 19:15:26

petra

imaround
Have you seen this video. Little Donny isn’t happy 😂

www.facebook.com/reel/1231023405826571

Ha ha 🤣🤣

petra Sun 22-Feb-26 18:56:28

imaround
Have you seen this video. Little Donny isn’t happy 😂

www.facebook.com/reel/1231023405826571

Norah Sun 22-Feb-26 14:44:27

Allira

Possibly, he will claim it as a success if that happens, Norah.

The problem is that some of the steel is imported.

I understand steel prices.

I understand production, my UK car is now produced in Slovakia.

However a larger 4x4 car at very low tariffs compared to a quite small budget car at much higher tariffs - I wonder about POTUS tariffs.

Allira Sun 22-Feb-26 14:29:52

Possibly, he will claim it as a success if that happens, Norah.

The problem is that some of the steel is imported.

Ladyleftfieldlover Sun 22-Feb-26 14:28:13

He has said he doesn’t need approval from Congress.

Norah Sun 22-Feb-26 14:27:36

Allira

Norah

Out of interest I looked to price of a Chevrolet Tahoe 4x4, 70.000usd. Tariffs in 2026 are said to have added 500usd to total.

Subaru Outback (not 4x4) 37.000usd tarriffs added 5k.

Wonder if POTUS tariffs changed purchase patterns to USA produced?

The problem is that they (and us) do not produce many of these goods any more.
They rely on imports and industries producing these goods, even if home-produced, rely on component parts and raw materials being imported.

I understand parts may not all be produced in country.

However, to tariffs in the US, I found it interesting tariff on a mid range 70K Chevrolet were only 500 whilst Subaru tariffs on a car costing much less (only 37K) were well over 5K.

I wondered if Americans might embrace 'buy USA'.

LemonJam Sun 22-Feb-26 14:09:37

Trumps reaction to the Supreme Court decision is not entirely unexpected from what ever seen of his reputation for poor emotional regulation and retaliatory behaviour.

He's imposed 15% tariffs under a different law, like a toddler trying to get his own way- but that only impose such tariffs under that law for a 5month period I understand before needing to gain Congress approval to continue.... chaotic.

Jennerdysphoria Sun 22-Feb-26 09:25:13

It's a pity other governments and heads of state have to take him seriously. I read that he was frozen out at the Davos meeting, and had not been given a red-carpet reception by the Swiss, as had been customary for previous US presidents. There should be more of this whenever possible. I wonder how far he would have to go in disrespect (defecating on stage?) before backs were really turned on him.

Casdon Sun 22-Feb-26 09:20:52

I agree Fallingstar. He’s thrown his toys out of the pram again. I just wonder how far his Republican voting mothers will let him go before he ends up on the naughty step,

keepingquiet Sun 22-Feb-26 09:19:36

He is certainly unique and hopefully we will never see the likes of him again.

However, most people voted for him because of that- a businessman not a politician.

This is what happens when politicians mess up and distance themselves from their voters- we may well look at Farage and wonder what people are seeing in him?

We even voted to leave the EU???

Crazy people get crazy politicians it seems to me...

Fallingstar Sun 22-Feb-26 09:15:33

I will say again what I have said before, I have never heard a grown man speak the way Trump does, he sounds like my four year old GS which is actually a disservice to my GS. He rambles and rants in a way I find totally bizarre. I know we all laugh about it but it just isn’t right on so many levels.
Can only hark back to Mussolini and the way he presented himself but am not even sure he spoke like Trump.

keepingquiet Sun 22-Feb-26 09:09:59

No- serious over entitlement and narcissism, which are not mental illnesses. You do mentally ill people a disservice by comparing them to Trump.

The problem is he is the democratically elected President- so maybe all those who voted ofr him are also mentally ill?

No, they're not.

mae13 Sun 22-Feb-26 09:05:52

What is it with Trump, Tariffs, the Chagos Islands etc, etc, etc, slagging off Starmer, the Chinese, Putin, South America, blah, blah, blah.....

Surely serious mental illness?

DaisyAnneReturns Sun 22-Feb-26 08:57:55

This guy gives you a breakdown (yes, he does have an American accent!)

www.gransnet.com/forums/news_and_politics/1356240-Trump-Looses-Control-as-Fatal-Blow-Threatens-Entire-Term

There's quite a bit of economic explanation about markets etc.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 22-Feb-26 08:53:22

Here we are - an exact and recognisable description from google.

Kleptocracy, meaning "rule by thieves," is a form of government where leaders use their political power to expropriate personal wealth and natural resources from their nation, often by embezzling public funds. It is a system characterized by systemic corruption, where state policy is designed to serve the private interests of a small, wealthy elite rather than the public.

AGAA4 Sun 22-Feb-26 08:39:30

Hopefully more people in the US will realise that unless you are in Trump's inner circle he doesn't give a passing thought for your welfare.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 22-Feb-26 08:38:41

Yes - There are so many examples of Farage’s propensity for self enrichment. Certainly cut from the same cloth.

Fallingstar Sun 22-Feb-26 08:28:39

Whitewavemark2.
Well said.
And I can see quite clearly that Farage and his motley crew are cut of the same cloth. I can only hope that those wishing to throw in their lot with Reform can see how things are panning out in the US. Certainly the ordinary people are not benefiting from his time in office and voters are realising that they really should have been careful what they wished for.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 22-Feb-26 08:16:49

imaround

It is absolutely illegal for him to earn money or accept gifts. Any gift belongs to the citizens of the US and typically end up at the Smithsonian IIRC.

He doesn't care.

Exactly so. This morning I’ve been reading an article published in “Foreign Affairs” and written by a couple of American professors. Extracts below

“Especially in his second term, Trump has instead wielded U.S. foreign policy principally to increase his own wealth, bolster his status, and personally benefit a small circle of his family members, friends, and loyalists.

U.S. foreign policy is now largely subordinate to the private interests of the president and his retainers.

These interests may, from time to time, align with some plausible understanding of the public good. Much more often, however, the Trump administration invokes U.S. national interests to deflect from its self-dealing by eroding the distinction between its private interests and those of the American people…

Many news reports on how Trump’s foreign dealmaking will line his supporters’ pockets still treat such arrangements as side payments, not as the main purpose of his statecraft. But if the administration’s foreign policy were not fundamentally kleptocratic, it would not be systematically attempting to subvert the independence of – or simply disable – the institutions that have long made U.S. foreign policy, including the National Security Council, the State Department, and the Defense Department. This de-institutionalization will almost surely undermine U.S. policymaking for at least a decade”

keepingquiet Sat 21-Feb-26 22:04:53

AGAA4

Perhaps Farage is distancing himself from a president who seems to be in decline.

He is yesterday's man- bye bye Farage.

imaround Sat 21-Feb-26 21:54:04

It is absolutely illegal for him to earn money or accept gifts. Any gift belongs to the citizens of the US and typically end up at the Smithsonian IIRC.

He doesn't care.

Allira Sat 21-Feb-26 20:19:18

Norah

Out of interest I looked to price of a Chevrolet Tahoe 4x4, 70.000usd. Tariffs in 2026 are said to have added 500usd to total.

Subaru Outback (not 4x4) 37.000usd tarriffs added 5k.

Wonder if POTUS tariffs changed purchase patterns to USA produced?

The problem is that they (and us) do not produce many of these goods any more.
They rely on imports and industries producing these goods, even if home-produced, rely on component parts and raw materials being imported.

AGAA4 Sat 21-Feb-26 19:49:25

Perhaps Farage is distancing himself from a president who seems to be in decline.

Wyllow3 Sat 21-Feb-26 19:40:12

Imaround, how have MAGA or previous MAGA supporters shown their change of mind?

They certainly accept more than we do. Starmer was gifted with glasses and that produced Uproar from some here - how do Trump supporters in the UK justify this?

Farage has gone rather quiet on this, the wonders of Trump and what the US is doing, or am I missing something?