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Trump Looses Control as Fatal Blow Threatens Entire Term

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DaisyAnneReturns Sun 22-Feb-26 08:47:22

Another little bit of balance on GN as Max from @UNFTR breaks down the Supreme Court decision striking down Trump’s tariffs and the administration’s response.

This edition of Macro Take also digs into a slew of catastrophic economic data releases that piled up over the week from inflation and jobs to slowing GDP and flashing red lights in the financial markets.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7CLW6i1JjY

MaizieD Sun 22-Feb-26 09:07:49

What are we meant to be ‘balancing’, DAR and would you like to tell us a bit about your latest Youtube guru? Why should we be impressed by him?

keepingquiet Sun 22-Feb-26 09:29:27

What I want to know is what are the systems in place to get rid of a sitting President? I know Nixon was forced to resign but Trump would never be so 'honourable' and those around him are clinging like limpets.

Maybe there is more going on in the background than we are aware of?

DaisyAnneReturns Sun 22-Feb-26 11:38:56

The video gives a great deal of background keepingquiet.

LemonJam Sun 22-Feb-26 12:58:06

DAR- Thanks- you also posted this link on the other thread "Trump's tariff struck down by Supreme Court".

keepingquiet Sun 22-Feb-26 13:12:24

DaisyAnneReturns

The video gives a great deal of background keepingquiet.

I watched it for a few minutes but it is a bit long, maybe I should go back when I have time.

imaround Sun 22-Feb-26 14:43:19

Yes keeping. The House would vote to impeach him. The Senate would convict and remove. Nixon resigned before this happened.

One man stands in the way. Mike Johnson, speaker of the house. Well, that and a bunch of Republicans.

Examples:

Clinton was impeached, but not convicted or removed.
Trump #1, impeached 2 (maybe 3) times and not removed.

Norah Sun 22-Feb-26 14:54:21

imaround

Yes keeping. The House would vote to impeach him. The Senate would convict and remove. Nixon resigned before this happened.

One man stands in the way. Mike Johnson, speaker of the house. Well, that and a bunch of Republicans.

Examples:

Clinton was impeached, but not convicted or removed.
Trump #1, impeached 2 (maybe 3) times and not removed.

Please correct that which I obviously misunderstand.

Quote: 85.9 million eligible voters skipped the 2024 general election, far surpassing the 76.8 million ballots cast for Donald Trump or the 74.3 million for Kamala Harris. POTUS won by a razor thin margin.

Why can't 160 million voters can't impeach and remove?

JaneJudge Sun 22-Feb-26 14:58:09

is this why flags are being hung upside down? I've seen a few today (US ones)

DaisyAnneReturns Sun 22-Feb-26 15:27:56

LemonJam

DAR- Thanks- you also posted this link on the other thread "Trump's tariff struck down by Supreme Court".

It's been a busy weekend! Sorry smile

Chocolatelovinggran Sun 22-Feb-26 15:41:56

I wonder how those closest to him, who have been complicit in obfuscation and outright lying, are feeling?
Will Kristi Noem, Karoline Leavitt, JD Vance et al be prepared to " go down with the ship", or ..?

Maremia Sun 22-Feb-26 16:18:44

Or find a new Captain.

imaround Sun 22-Feb-26 16:39:53

Because that isn't how the system is set up Norah.

Voters can choose a President once every 4 years. The only other way they can influence the Presidency is to vote out all Republicans at mid-terms and let the Democrats Impeach and Convict him.

There is another way to remove him, and I saw a quick headline this morning that someone may have tried that route again today? Not sure if it was a recent or an old article and I haven't looked it up yet. In any case, it was unsuccessful again.

How do voters remove politicians where you are?

imaround Sun 22-Feb-26 16:42:24

JaneJudge

is this why flags are being hung upside down? I've seen a few today (US ones)

An upside down US flag is a sign of distress. Send help. It has morphed into a sign of the resistance.

Never in a million years would I have thought that I would actually type out a sentence that could be in a dystopian novel.

Maremia Sun 22-Feb-26 16:50:05

That was not a simple talk, but his summaries make sense.
Basically, Trump does not have the skills he thinks he has. He squanders all that he inherits.

eazybee Sun 22-Feb-26 16:55:14

Well, a young man has been shot and killed for trying to break into Mar-y-largo today with a gun and a petrol can.

DaisyAnneReturns Mon 23-Feb-26 09:42:18

Maremia

That was not a simple talk, but his summaries make sense.
Basically, Trump does not have the skills he thinks he has. He squanders all that he inherits.

I'm glad you got something out of it Maremia. Sadly, squandering your inheritance from your father is one thing, squandering the countries is another.

Meidas Touch commentaries are often quite in-depth. As far as I can tell they were set up to keep the law front and centre so quite a few speakers are lawyers who give very detailed information about what is happening in the courts - not often available in the mainly right-wing press.

They bring in others with different disciplines for different areas such as this. I think it fits the long-form content description, providing in-depth, high-value material.

MaizieD Mon 23-Feb-26 10:58:57

How do voters remove politicians where you are?

There is a method called a 'Recall Petition' for individual members of Parliament (MPs) which is explained here:

www.electoralcommission.org.uk/voting-and-elections/how-elections-work/types-elections/recall-petitions

A Prime Minister can be removed by a vote of no confidence going against them in Parliament. Or they could be forced into resigning by a number of ministerial resignations (as Johnson was)

But our PM isn't our Head of State and isn't at all similar to your President, who is your Head of State. Our Head of State is the Monarch and we can't do anything to get rid of him or her... OTOH, our monarch, although influential in many ways, doesn't actually try to run the state...

Allira Mon 23-Feb-26 11:09:12

Which is why our system is preferable imo, in that no one person holds such power as the POTUS and the checks and balances in our system distribute the power throughout.

keepingquiet Mon 23-Feb-26 11:26:45

I think we see our lack of a written constitution as an asset in these times too- especially as Trump ignores the constitution. Power resting in the hands of one person can work if that person is honest and acts in the interests of the people, but recent events has shown that if you elect a proven liar and felon who is only lining his own pockets then the consequences become very serious indeed. The checks and balances in the US need appraising to enable the reinforcing of the constitution if it blatantly transgressed.

Maybe the US needs to rip it up and start again, especially the right to bear arms thing?

I don't think Trump and his cronies will go down without a fight- it seems a long time till the mid-terms.

Maremia Mon 23-Feb-26 13:13:29

That incident with the young man is very strange. He had a shotgun, which makes me think 'farming community'. Usually assassins have rifles. Or assault weapons. As far as I am aware you only get 2 tries with a shotgun. Security claims they told him to put down the items. Hope they can prove this.
Trump wasn't ever there at the time.

Maremia Mon 23-Feb-26 16:06:47

Now they are saying he was a white Christian MAGA supporter who was annoyed with the Epstein Files delay.
White House had earlier tried the demented Democrat lie.

David49 Mon 23-Feb-26 20:36:01

Maremia

That incident with the young man is very strange. He had a shotgun, which makes me think 'farming community'. Usually assassins have rifles. Or assault weapons. As far as I am aware you only get 2 tries with a shotgun. Security claims they told him to put down the items. Hope they can prove this.
Trump wasn't ever there at the time.

Most common are double barrel guns but Automatic Shotguns can have 10 or more cartridges, at up to 50 yards they are lethal and you don't have to be accurate. Rural areas have far more shotguns widely used for bird shooting, small ground pests and clay pigeon targets.

Maremia Mon 23-Feb-26 20:39:15

Thanks David

pluckyluckyme Tue 24-Feb-26 14:21:10

Trump has no intention of leaving no matter what. So far he has confirmed that he can pretty much do what he wants using anything at his disposal and making up the rest. Dangerous times indeed especially as the far right in this country want to emulate him and his policies. People are being blinded by the so called immigration problem and divided deliberately by resentment and hate. Here it is the sick and disabled and the immigrants that apparently are to blame for all society's problems. Not the the people pulling the strings , not the people making huge amounts of money at society's expense.