£10.000 offered to leave the UK. Form an orderly queue.

glammagran

Can you imagine giving them 10,000 to leave and then 3 months later them reappearing for another handout.

Yes I can!,

It will be like a magic money roundabout.

Casdon

Where did you read a the small print Sarnia? I just looked, I can’t find it.

I saw it on BBC Breaking News.

The cost of paying a small boat smuggler to take somebody across the Chanel is between £15,000 and £35,000
What a load of tosh.
Top price now would be £5,000.
The only way you would pay that top price is by boarding a private boat in France, Belgium, Holland where you are guaranteed to enter the uk.

Calendargirl

I have no idea how Farage and Reform would ‘sort’ things, but no one else has been very successful, have they?

You've got to want to make things work, and I don't think Labour particularly does.

Farage probably does, but I doubt whether he will get the chance.

I have no idea how Farage and Reform would ‘sort’ things, but no one else has been very successful, have they?

Shabana Mahmood writing in 2015.

www.newstatesman.com/politics/2015/10/i-spent-three-days-refugee-camp-heres-what-i-learned

Extract:

It does feel as though an age of chaos has descended. Crises everywhere, millions on the move, nuclear-armed world powers on different sides… and in the midst of the chaos ordinary people are running. You would run. I would run. They are running. We must do our part to help them.

Then along came Morgan McSweeney and Labour Together …

Oreo

I have done thanks, initially it’s for 150 people, if it goes well then it will be applied more often.
😄🥂chill.

Not to anyone not already in the system it won’t. You’ll have also read then about her other propossls? Perhaps you could give your opinions on those as well?

I have done thanks, initially it’s for 150 people, if it goes well then it will be applied more often.
😄🥂chill.

Oreo

The problem is, would this be even more of an incentive to come here on a small boat?
If they’re accepted here then great, if refused asylum then it’s £10,000 each to go back.£40,000 for a family of four.

Dear dear dear me - if only you’d read up on the pilot before posting and understood who the scheme would apply to. But then, no contest is it between facts and an uninformed rant.

The problem is, would this be even more of an incentive to come here on a small boat?
If they’re accepted here then great, if refused asylum then it’s £10,000 each to go back.£40,000 for a family of four.

Primrose53

It is an absolute disgrace especially as there is no money for WASPI women, no money for those forced into DIY Dentistry, no money for 101 other things but hey, ho plenty for people who come here illegally.

It is just like winning the lottery for these people.

If only you’d read up about the pilot. And the money it’s hoped will be saved. WASPI women and provision of NHS dentistry are longstanding issues but I expect you think KS caused them

Daddima

midgey

I don’t think this is a new scheme, I’m sure it is recycled. Tories definitely tried it I think when they sent a lorry around telling people to go home.

I may be wrong, but I think financial assistance has always been available for those whose asylum claim has been refused. Asylum seekers can apply for asylum even if they have arrived ‘irregularly’ ( like in small boats). When the first claim is refused there are a few appeals which can be made, or other reasons it is not possible for them to return to whence they came, but if not, they can return voluntarily, and that is when financial assistance may be given. If they refuse to return voluntarily, then they may be deported, but it is certainly not a simple process.
In all probability, £10k per person would be much cheaper than the cost of keeping refugees here, court proceedings etc.
It really is a minefield, and I would be interested to hear how Farage and Reform propose to deal with the practicalities of ‘stopping the boats’.

That’s what I read about it Daddima that it works out cheaper to offer them cash.

It is an absolute disgrace especially as there is no money for WASPI women, no money for those forced into DIY Dentistry, no money for 101 other things but hey, ho plenty for people who come here illegally.

It is just like winning the lottery for these people.

MartavTaurus

Allira & Casdon
You two sound like Mrs. Harris 👗 but, of course, she raised her own funds to go to Paris, by working, saving, scrimping etc. No one gave her a penny!

I have recorded it but haven't watched it 😁

midgey

I don’t think this is a new scheme, I’m sure it is recycled. Tories definitely tried it I think when they sent a lorry around telling people to go home.

I may be wrong, but I think financial assistance has always been available for those whose asylum claim has been refused. Asylum seekers can apply for asylum even if they have arrived ‘irregularly’ ( like in small boats). When the first claim is refused there are a few appeals which can be made, or other reasons it is not possible for them to return to whence they came, but if not, they can return voluntarily, and that is when financial assistance may be given. If they refuse to return voluntarily, then they may be deported, but it is certainly not a simple process.
In all probability, £10k per person would be much cheaper than the cost of keeping refugees here, court proceedings etc.
It really is a minefield, and I would be interested to hear how Farage and Reform propose to deal with the practicalities of ‘stopping the boats’.

Allira & Casdon
You two sound like Mrs. Harris 👗 but, of course, she raised her own funds to go to Paris, by working, saving, scrimping etc. No one gave her a penny!

MT62

They won’t DNA them because it will be against their human rights!

You beat me to it!

Allira

Casdon

I do like the sound of crossing the Chanel, I’d be off to Paris tomorrow, my £10k might buy me a couple of new outfits.

Dream on, Casdon, one simple outfit might cost €10,000.

My hopes are dashed!

Casdon

I do like the sound of crossing the Chanel, I’d be off to Paris tomorrow, my £10k might buy me a couple of new outfits.

Dream on, Casdon, one simple outfit might cost €10,000.

Allira

Casdon

I do like the sound of crossing the Chanel, I’d be off to Paris tomorrow, my £10k might buy me a couple of new outfits.

Paris Fashion Week!!
👗🧥👠

I hope they pay up quick, I hadn’t realised it was this week! 🥂

Casdon

Can I suggest people read this.
news.sky.com/story/politics-latest-mandelson-starmer-labour-farage-badenoch-12593360#11204744

Indeed. So for people who don't follow links:

The government has also dismissed suggestions paying people to leave encourage people to travel to the UK illegally.

The cost of paying a small boat smuggler to take somebody across the Channel is between £15,000 and £35,000.

A source said: "As a result, the pilot to pay them to leave cannot act as a pull factor because it costs more to get here in the first place. If they do not take this offer, the family will be forcibly removed."

It's also understood that the costs of an enforced return for a single person is around £48,000, once detention, escorting, casework, logistics and flight costs are included.

That sum doesn't cover the cost of an appeal.

Casdon

I do like the sound of crossing the Chanel, I’d be off to Paris tomorrow, my £10k might buy me a couple of new outfits.

Paris Fashion Week!!
👗🧥👠

I’m looking forward to this being discussed on Fiona Bruce’s Question Time tonight.

This has to be an April Fool but a month early.

I'm still waiting for my government pension. So many people unable to afford to see a dentist as they have all become private. Our countryside being ruined by excessive housing. I could go on but my phone is running out of charge.

I do like the sound of crossing the Chanel, I’d be off to Paris tomorrow, my £10k might buy me a couple of new outfits.