Mr Trump Can't Shut This War Down........

Trump.has said he will remember those who don't help him open the Strait of Hormuz.
The US and Israel have caused this situation and now find they aren't coping. They are asking other countries to risk their personnel and ships to get them out of the mess they have made

Yes, I think Iran only has to survive.
What they consider to be survival most likely differs from our view.
The Regime has demonstrated that they don't care about the citizens.
The religious extremists possibly believe that martyrdom is an 'upgrade'

Perhaps it's time to become energy independent?
Better for us and better for the planet.

Yes it’s not our war. We don’t care about Israel and Iran’s never ending battles with it.
It’s not our war - we don’t have the money or resources to fight any war.
It’s not our war - guiding Iran to hold some semblance of democratic elections doesn’t concern us.
The only thing that moves us is the price of oil and food, the fact that we are not energy independent and the fact that we are becoming poorer by the minute. In more ways than one.

It is not our war, Trump started it without consulting, he likes shocking people, let him deal with it.The nutter makes bizarre announcements and just does a U Turn, this one has backfired, feel sorry for America. People are losing their lived ones in a fight they cannot win. He is a draft dodger, non of these war mongers send their own sons

When I studied history the first point was there’s no such thing as unbiased history.

*Oreo Sun 15-Mar-26 22:02:53
BJones have noticed that the UK gets a lot of flak from you, so what country are you from?🤔*

A lot of flak, Oreo? You mean, I speak the truth? Have you studied history, unbiased history, I mean? It's time Britain accepted the wrong it has done as well as the tremendous good. Pretending it didn't happen is not actually helpful.

Oh, I'm in NZ, but have a British passport. Have read a lot, studied a lot, lived a long time, much of it in the UK, which I adore. But that doesn't alter the fact that we should accept our faults.

Oreo

Maremia

The thing is, Iran doesn't have to 'win', just survive.

Not really. Of course they will survive as the US and Israel aren’t wanting to harm civilians, tho war being war that will sometimes happen.
Iran will do the usual boasting as will Trump, but Iran has had a beating that will take a long time to come back from, both militarily and economically.

Where is the money coming from to survive you would have to sell a lot of drones to Russia to support the country.
Word is coming out that some of the revolutionary guards arnt being paid or receiving their pension.

BoadiceaJones

Foxie48
Perhaps Iran would not have been aggressive if the UK and US had not engineered regime change and removed a democratically elected Prime Minister. They replaced him with the Shah, who systematically looted the country's wealth, tortured the opposition and generally alienated the impoverished population so they thought an Islamic regime would be an improvement. Israel has nuclear weapons but for some reason no one seems to object to that, but perhaps Iran feels it would be safer if it also had nuclear weapons. Who knows, I certainly don't!

Top marks Foxie!

The UK has a lot to answer for in the ME. Sykes-Picot anyone?

You only have to watch Laurence of Arabia to understand what a stitch up it was.

Maremia

The thing is, Iran doesn't have to 'win', just survive.

Not really. Of course they will survive as the US and Israel aren’t wanting to harm civilians, tho war being war that will sometimes happen.
Iran will do the usual boasting as will Trump, but Iran has had a beating that will take a long time to come back from, both militarily and economically.

BJones have noticed that the UK gets a lot of flak from you, so what country are you from?🤔

Foxie48
Perhaps Iran would not have been aggressive if the UK and US had not engineered regime change and removed a democratically elected Prime Minister. They replaced him with the Shah, who systematically looted the country's wealth, tortured the opposition and generally alienated the impoverished population so they thought an Islamic regime would be an improvement. Israel has nuclear weapons but for some reason no one seems to object to that, but perhaps Iran feels it would be safer if it also had nuclear weapons. Who knows, I certainly don't!

Top marks Foxie!

The UK has a lot to answer for in the ME. Sykes-Picot anyone?

Perhaps Iran would not have been aggressive if the UK and US had not engineered regime change and removed a democratically elected Prime Minister. They replaced him with the Shah, who systematically looted the country's wealth, tortured the opposition and generally alienated the impoverished population so they thought an Islamic regime would be an improvement. Israel has nuclear weapons but for some reason no one seems to object to that, but perhaps Iran feels it would be safer if it also had nuclear weapons. Who knows, I certainly don't!

But Iran has been consistently aggressive for years … and not having nuclear weapons certainly didn’t make them a peaceful non belligerent country.

Interesting post, Fallingstar ( 9.32 today).
Food for thought.

Israel is running out of interceptors and it seems the US is looking at their own stocks running low.
Iran have a non stop supply of drones and are not giving up as Trump hoped.
This needless war is causing problems across the world and Iran may win.

The thing is, Iran doesn't have to 'win', just survive.

GrannyGravy13

POTUS Trump and Netanyahu started this war, but I have a feeling that it will be Iran which finishes it, when they are willing to…

It's a nightmare and I think you are correct.

Donald is the gift that keeps on giving for the comedians

www.facebook.com/reel/1239040421498388

Trump has reached a new low now, he was talking about the attacks on Kharg Island and said it is more or less obliterated but there may be more attacks “just for fun”. How is this odious human being allowed to get away with what he does?

POTUS Trump and Netanyahu started this war, but I have a feeling that it will be Iran which finishes it, when they are willing to…

Can anyone figure this out? Trump is inviting nations, including China, yes China, to help him with the Strait of Hormuz.

FriedGreenTomatoes2

And it’s a different ‘moral’ crime not to when necessary.

It isn’t. An illegal war is an illegal war. He sought no approval, not even from the Congress of his own country.

Agree foxie

That's why we have International laws FriedGreenTomatoes2 to arbitrate, one country's idea of morality may not be the same as another's. I don't believe this war has been started for the right reasons, others on here have a different view. I'm sure we all think we have the "moral" high ground!