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Matt Goodwin

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Meandrogrog Sat 14-Mar-26 06:54:49

Just seen Matt Goodwin has a new book due to be published on monday called Suicide of a Nation. He has an extract from the book in the Daily Mail today, which is excellent. I think this will be well worth purchasing.

Vintagewhine Sat 14-Mar-26 07:38:50

No thanks. If I wanted to know his views I'd get Orban' s speeches translated from Hungarian. Check out where he gets his money!

Magenta8 Sat 14-Mar-26 07:57:46

I personally prefer more centrist, less biased views. I feel the same way about far left commentators.

petra Sat 14-Mar-26 08:03:18

You have to laugh. 😱
This from someone who supports the policies of the last government that brought us to this demise.

twaddle Sat 14-Mar-26 08:04:28

This is what the publisher has to say about it:

"A searing examination of Britain's political crisis and the growing chasm between Westminster and the people it governs.

Suicide of a Nation is a story of how Britain, one of the most remarkable countries on earth, is not just in decline but is committing national suicide.

It is a story of how a people are losing their own country. Mass uncontrolled immigration, porous borders, 'two-tier multiculturalism', and a draconian regime of censorship are all contributing to not just the transformation of a country and a people but their very replacement.

Drawing on a huge amount of data, rigorous analysis, and demographic forecasts, Suicide of a Nation pulls back the curtain to show readers how their population, how their country, is now being completely transformed -and in ways they never voted for, nor ever asked for.

Through an unflinching look at reality, a reality the politicians would rather you ignore, Suicide of a Nation asks and then answers a series of uncomfortable but urgent questions.

What is happening to Britain, and why? On current demographic trends, where will the country be at the end of the century, only 74 years from now? Why are millions of people, including their wishes, concerns, and worries, being ignored? Why has the country's political and cultural elite become so utterly disconnected from the rest of the country? What might happen if none of this is addressed? And what must change before it is too late?"

No thanks!

Fallingstar Sat 14-Mar-26 08:11:09

I imagine he will have a fan base who will read his book. Am afraid it really doesn’t appeal to me.
Am all for people having political views but when I make my own I try to do as much objective research as possible, hard because there is bias everywhere, but I try.

Wyllow3 Sat 14-Mar-26 08:15:08

Why should I want to read a book - never mind shell out for - a book packed with racism and discourses I am already well familiar with and utterly, profoundly disagree with - ie could have been written in the 1930's?

Selective data and basically a well trodden path.

MayBee70 Sat 14-Mar-26 08:29:56

“It is a story of how a people are losing their own country. Mass uncontrolled immigration, porous borders, 'two-tier multiculturalism', and a draconian regime of censorship are all contributing to not just the transformation of a country and a people but their very replacement”
If we have a draconian regime of censorship how come this book has been published and featured in a daily newspaper confused?

Meandrogrog Sat 14-Mar-26 08:35:28

MayBee70

“It is a story of how a people are losing their own country. Mass uncontrolled immigration, porous borders, 'two-tier multiculturalism', and a draconian regime of censorship are all contributing to not just the transformation of a country and a people but their very replacement”
If we have a draconian regime of censorship how come this book has been published and featured in a daily newspaper confused?

I did wonder that myself, given the stifling of free speech. If I put what I thought I am sure I would be banned from this site and possibly imprisoned to boot!

I am not surprised at the reaction of posters so far. For my own point of view I would like my grandchildren to emigrate as far from this country as possible, New Zealand would be good.

Meandrogrog Sat 14-Mar-26 08:36:22

twaddle

This is what the publisher has to say about it:

"A searing examination of Britain's political crisis and the growing chasm between Westminster and the people it governs.

Suicide of a Nation is a story of how Britain, one of the most remarkable countries on earth, is not just in decline but is committing national suicide.

It is a story of how a people are losing their own country. Mass uncontrolled immigration, porous borders, 'two-tier multiculturalism', and a draconian regime of censorship are all contributing to not just the transformation of a country and a people but their very replacement.

Drawing on a huge amount of data, rigorous analysis, and demographic forecasts, Suicide of a Nation pulls back the curtain to show readers how their population, how their country, is now being completely transformed -and in ways they never voted for, nor ever asked for.

Through an unflinching look at reality, a reality the politicians would rather you ignore, Suicide of a Nation asks and then answers a series of uncomfortable but urgent questions.

What is happening to Britain, and why? On current demographic trends, where will the country be at the end of the century, only 74 years from now? Why are millions of people, including their wishes, concerns, and worries, being ignored? Why has the country's political and cultural elite become so utterly disconnected from the rest of the country? What might happen if none of this is addressed? And what must change before it is too late?"

No thanks!

What do you disagree with about any of the above?

Wyllow3 Sat 14-Mar-26 08:49:50

1. Am happy with my city being 10.3% non Brit white.

Need I go on?

Doodledog Sat 14-Mar-26 08:53:18

Presumably the title is a reference to Birth of a Nation, a very famous film that gives a racist and simplistic view of how ‘the white man’ civilised America, with dreadful depictions of people of colour as unintelligent sexual predators, and the KKK as the heroes of the hour? A coincidence if not.

That’s one reason why I won’t be reading it. Another is the overhyped blurb - anyone claiming to give an ‘unflinching look at reality’ is suggesting that those who disagree are cowardly and don’t know what is ‘real’. That’s not promising an unbiased account either, so it doesn’t sound like my cup of tea.

There’s enough ill-informed prejudice available online, neatly packaged in bite-size chunks - no need to plough through a book written by someone who believes he has the key to reality.

MartavTaurus Sat 14-Mar-26 08:56:40

Why are millions of people, including their wishes, concerns, and worries, being ignored?

If the book centers around this question, then it might not be all bad.

It seems there's now a majority of people out there who feel disillusioned and under valued in this country, (just not on GN).
The reason being, that this government appears to be seeking to strongly align themselves with the views and opinions of minorities.

I have no problem with inclusion, but I don't want peferential treatment given to others when the views of the people are dismissed or ignored. And thats how it feels. It hasn't reached suicidal proportions yet, but it has reached not satisfactory or fail levels.

Grandmabatty Sat 14-Mar-26 08:58:13

Given his whining when he didn't win his election, and his attitude to women among many, I have no interest in feathering his nest

Meandrogrog Sat 14-Mar-26 09:05:05

Doodledog

Presumably the title is a reference to Birth of a Nation, a very famous film that gives a racist and simplistic view of how ‘the white man’ civilised America, with dreadful depictions of people of colour as unintelligent sexual predators, and the KKK as the heroes of the hour? A coincidence if not.

That’s one reason why I won’t be reading it. Another is the overhyped blurb - anyone claiming to give an ‘unflinching look at reality’ is suggesting that those who disagree are cowardly and don’t know what is ‘real’. That’s not promising an unbiased account either, so it doesn’t sound like my cup of tea.

There’s enough ill-informed prejudice available online, neatly packaged in bite-size chunks - no need to plough through a book written by someone who believes he has the key to reality.

Thank you for replying, I am interested in what you mean by ill informed prejudice. It does come across as you meaning anyone who disagrees with you! I know that most on this kind of forum of N&P are not likely to agree with me. I assume there are a lot of retired teachers etc. in the real world the overwhelming feeling is of a government who puts its citizens last. One of the reasons why Labour hate pubs is that they are places people meet to talk.

Matt Goodwin says it like it is. I expect Reform will do well in the local elections in May and that says it all.

1960srelic Sat 14-Mar-26 09:09:20

Draconian regime of censorship? I agree with MayBee!

twaddle Sat 14-Mar-26 09:12:11

Where do retired teachers live, if not in the real world?

I wasn't aware Labour hates pubs.

Matt Goodwin says it like he fantasises it is. It's always seemed to me that he has a massive chip on his shoulder.

Chocolatelovinggran Sat 14-Mar-26 09:17:13

I'm a retired teacher, Labour voter who meets friends in pubs. What part of " not the real world" do I need to address, Meandrogrog?

Cossy Sat 14-Mar-26 09:20:45

Not for me, but thanks for sharing

Cossy Sat 14-Mar-26 09:23:20

My daughter is a teacher, as were many of our family, not myself, I’m retired though and I very much “live in the real world”, to infer any one demographic here as not living in the “real world” is simply rude, imo.

Graphite Sat 14-Mar-26 09:24:17

I would like my grandchildren to emigrate as far from this country as possible, New Zealand would be good.

You do realise that that would make your GC immigrants, the very people that Goodwin loathes.

29% of NZ's population are imigrants. 16% of the UK's population are immigrants.

Cossy Sat 14-Mar-26 09:24:54

Btw, neither the Labour Party nor Labour supporters “hate pubs”, I find that comment very amusing!

Cossy Sat 14-Mar-26 09:28:00

Let’s not “prejudge” the local election results, let’s wait and actually see what happens. I don’t believe Reform as quite as popular as some would believe, certainly not in many of the councils where they became extremely inexperienced and somewhat niave counsellors, many of whom subsequently stepped down.

Cossy Sat 14-Mar-26 09:29:02

Sorry, councillors! Though a few constituents may have needed counselling!

Graphite Sat 14-Mar-26 09:31:18

Did you wonder why Farage ran Goodwin for Gorton & Denton? Goodwin had no interest in being a constituency MP. He had to be shamed into making an appearance at the hustings. Once he lost the by-election, we had all the trumped up nonsense about family voting. Bad loser indeed. Had he won, I imagine the people in G& D would have seen him as much as the people in Clacton see Farage ... which is never.

So all a lot of noise to get Goodwin in the public eye to publicise this book. It will no doubt be stuffed with the same fabricated statistics from Reform’s Roger Bates, the ambitiously-called Centre for Migration Control which isn’t a centre at all but just one man. Bates has been working for Farage and Tice for years, paid to pump out lies for them which the Mail, Express, Sun and Telegraph are only to happy to print ... and it’s readers all too eager to believe.

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