Is Your Party finished?

I have recently holidayed in Norway which has a much higher equality of wealth. Largely done through the tax system, but of course there is the little matter if the sovereign wealth which has made them one if the richest countries in the world and the fact that we seemed to given all the income we received from oil to the wealthy and tax cuts.

Norway has health care from birth to death. Social care, education from birth to PhD, free dentistry, a good welfare system, excellent housing, - there are a few thousand homeless but you will not find them sleeping rough on the streets, an excellent environmental policy - it recognises the anomaly of oil drilling and is seeking ways to replace this, and of course not a single pot hole😄.

That is what a reasonably high level of tax gives you - you can’t have any of it without paying for it.

Whitewavemark2

I have recently holidayed in Norway which has a much higher equality of wealth. Largely done through the tax system, but of course there is the little matter if the sovereign wealth which has made them one if the richest countries in the world and the fact that we seemed to given all the income we received from oil to the wealthy and tax cuts.

Norway has health care from birth to death. Social care, education from birth to PhD, free dentistry, a good welfare system, excellent housing, - there are a few thousand homeless but you will not find them sleeping rough on the streets, an excellent environmental policy - it recognises the anomaly of oil drilling and is seeking ways to replace this, and of course not a single pot hole😄.

That is what a reasonably high level of tax gives you - you can’t have any of it without paying for it.

I completely agree with you but in the UK we seem to be paying for it without getting it. Everyone I have spoken to feels the same!

Meandrogrog

Whitewavemark2

I have recently holidayed in Norway which has a much higher equality of wealth. Largely done through the tax system, but of course there is the little matter if the sovereign wealth which has made them one if the richest countries in the world and the fact that we seemed to given all the income we received from oil to the wealthy and tax cuts.

Norway has health care from birth to death. Social care, education from birth to PhD, free dentistry, a good welfare system, excellent housing, - there are a few thousand homeless but you will not find them sleeping rough on the streets, an excellent environmental policy - it recognises the anomaly of oil drilling and is seeking ways to replace this, and of course not a single pot hole😄.

That is what a reasonably high level of tax gives you - you can’t have any of it without paying for it.

I completely agree with you but in the UK we seem to be paying for it without getting it. Everyone I have spoken to feels the same!

In the UK the wrong people are paying it. As a percentage of income the 'poorer' citizens pay more in taxes, direct and indirect, than the wealthy.

I wouldn't agree, though, that today in the UK we have much in the way of fairness and equity. It has been diminishing for decades...

keepingquiet

As a long time Labour member I don't think this party ever even got going and was doomed from the start.
I never voted for Corbyn as leader because he was an idealogue first and foremost and did not really understand the times he was living in or how the British political system works. He would never have been elected because he didn't appeal to the broad base needed to win a majority in Parliament.
As a man of principle I admire him, but as politician? No chance.
I think he would much rather be growing onions or something, that growing a wide voter base.

lovely man with some good ideas, but way too dogmatic to win an election or be a good PM.

YourParty are setting up branches nation wide. Than they will put forward candidates for elections.

How do you win an election like McSweeney Mandelson, Starmer by lying to the membership promiseing 10 pledges much neded change then ditch all 10 pledges when PM? Brilliant that's how you win fool the electorate to vote for you on promises you don't intend to keep.

Today, the government announced plans to increase UK military spending to almost £80 billion a year by 2029 — a 27% increase.

This is a political choice to prioritise weapons and warfare at a time when millions are struggling with the cost of living, crumbling public services and a housing crisis.

We need to get serious about the crises facing us all: climate change, inequality and war.

In a few years' time, will we look back and be grateful that we spent billions on weapons?

Or will we look back and wish we had the common sense to invest in a greener, fairer world?

Samwan- all posters will have various and differing views on spending priorities.

If there was a GE tomorrow ( which there isn't) its 100% certain Your Party would not win a majority!

Your Party was not able to put a candidate forward for the recent Makerfield by election or any other by elections this year. How many members does it actually have to set up 'branches nationwide"?

The next GE is 3 years away so Your Party has three years to build capacity after its abysmal, disastrous start. If it wins no by elections in the interim it still will have no chance of winning a GE.

Meandrogrog

Whitewavemark2

I have recently holidayed in Norway which has a much higher equality of wealth. Largely done through the tax system, but of course there is the little matter if the sovereign wealth which has made them one if the richest countries in the world and the fact that we seemed to given all the income we received from oil to the wealthy and tax cuts.

Norway has health care from birth to death. Social care, education from birth to PhD, free dentistry, a good welfare system, excellent housing, - there are a few thousand homeless but you will not find them sleeping rough on the streets, an excellent environmental policy - it recognises the anomaly of oil drilling and is seeking ways to replace this, and of course not a single pot hole😄.

That is what a reasonably high level of tax gives you - you can’t have any of it without paying for it.

I completely agree with you but in the UK we seem to be paying for it without getting it. Everyone I have spoken to feels the same!

But we are not paying for it in the same way Norwegians do. We are also a much more unequal society.

I agree with CatsWhiskas.

Norway levies higher overall taxes (averaging 40% GDP) to fund extensive social welfare.

Its NI. contributions range from o% to 14.1%, 22% flat rate general income tax and a progressive bracket tax upwards with top rate being 47.4%. Norway also imposes an annual wealth tax of 1.1%. on net assets above about £127,000 (1.7 million Kroner). Norway VAT equivalent. sales tax IS 25%. Norway capital Gains tax is a flat 37.8%. We do not have an annual wealth tax in UK

There are system differences ie UK PAYE is largely automated- Norways HMRC equivalent. offers complex deductions for mortgage interest, child care, commuter costs etc. t

Norway are still making a lot of money from oil and gas, though ( I seem to remember hearing that in a Simon Reeve programme I saw recently). The Scandinavian countries do seem to have some good ideas when it comes to the environment etc though, things like ( I think) laser lights that stop deer running into roads.

I like Corbyn and thought he was treated very badly by the media and by the Labour Party. A man that has campaigned all his adult life for peace and equality to be labelled as anti-semetic was, in my opinion, absolutely disgusting.

However, I think Your Party was not a viable concept because Corbyn and Sultana were not temperamentally or politically well suited

I too object to the use of the word "rabble" to describe this party's members. I can think of other parties for whom that description would be far more appropriate.