News of Iran ceasefire

Whitewavemark2

And if Iran fires at the blockade?

Inevitable I would think. Another well thought out plan by the US?

nanna8

China already is the most powerful nation as far as our part of the world is concerned. The USA hasn’t nearly so much influence financially. The Chinese are much more subtle about things, though. They don’t go around bragging about their power.

This is absolutely very true and Prime Minister Zi is highly reserved and has alot of class.

Brilliant man, who had the HIGH SPEED TRAINS (that Spain has - THE AVE ) installed from the west to the east and the north to the south.

He has a lovely trade relationship & communications with the Prime Minister of Spain and also Prime Minister Carney of Canada.

MaizieD

fancythat

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Around 12 to 15 Muslim-majority countries apply Sharia law, though its application varies from limited family law to a comprehensive national legal system. Strict or comprehensive Sharia is typically applied in nations like Saudi Arabia, Iran, Afghanistan, Sudan, Yemen, and Brunei, while many others, such as Egypt, Pakistan, and Malaysia, use it selectively or primarily for personal status matters.
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There are 195 countries in the world.

12 -15 of them observing Sharia Law doesn't ring panic bells in my head.

a. I wouldnt choose to go and live in them.

b. It may be ringing some panic buttons in some Leaders' heads.

Actually giving this blockade more thought.

Imagine this

A Chinese oil tanker is escorted by a Chinese naval boat - allies of Iran attempts to enter the Straits

Would the US dare to fire on a Chinese vessel? As I said another well thought out plan.

AGAA4

Would the US dare to fire on a Chinese vessel? As I said another well thought out plan.

Good question.

Well 100% sure that they wouldn’t fire on a Russian vessel. This has the making of a complete fiasco

Again!

If they aren’t boarding and checking the origin of the vessel, I’m not sure how they will know who actually owns it, because so many of them have obscure ownership, and fly the flag of a different country. Is there a register somewhere of all ships and their ownership?

The latest according to the ToL.

President Trump said that the US would impose a naval blockade of the Strait of Hormuz and the UK was among the countries sending minesweepers
Trump added that peace talks in Pakistan had failed over Iran’s nuclear ambitions
Israel’s military chief of staff has instructed the country’s forces to prepare for hostilities to resume with Iran, according to Israeli media
Sir Keir Starmer said that all sides must avoid “any further escalation”, while Wes Streeting, the health secretary, admitted that the UK and US’s

What is the benefit of blockading the Straits? For anyone?

Maremia

What is the benefit of blockading the Straits? For anyone?

Hoping that countries who use the strait now will put pressure on Iran to open it. It may rebound on the US of course.

Again from ToL

President Trump has announced that the US navy will impose a blockade on the Strait of Hormuz.

He warned that “any Iranian who fires at us, or at peaceful vessels, will be BLOWN TO HELL!”

Trump said in his Truth Social post: “The Blockade will begin shortly. Other Countries will be involved with this Blockade. Additionally and, at an appropriate moment, we are fully “LOCKED AND LOADED,” and our Military will finish up the little that is left of Iran!

Iran have already shown their strategy is primarily "resistance" and quite prepared to play the long game.

Trump enacting a blockade could be seen as replicating Iran's blockade- i.e. stale mate- potentially for a long period- not to Trump's domestic political advantage?

I would have thought countries using and depending on traffic through the Hormuz straight will be equally frustrated by Trump blockading the straight- or am I missing something?

Surely Trump must realise his strategies so far have been a disaster if he's reduced to this stalemate position?

Trump's "LOCKED AND LOADED' threats are surely another TACO situation?

China is sending weapons systems to Iran so this could get nasty.
There are thoughts that the US believe by weakening Iran they are weakening China. Superpowers involved. What can possibly go wrong.

twaddle

Same here, Maizie.

I agree and it’s so sad!

Ironically, all this talk of Shariah Law and Islam, reminds me, just a little of when we, Great Britain, were creating our own Empire, persuading all those other countries to speak English and become Christians.

AGAA4

China is sending weapons systems to Iran so this could get nasty.
There are thoughts that the US believe by weakening Iran they are weakening China. Superpowers involved. What can possibly go wrong.

What indeed!

😱😱😱😱😱

Frankly, it’s utterly terrifying!

Boz

Again from ToL

President Trump has announced that the US navy will impose a blockade on the Strait of Hormuz.

He warned that “any Iranian who fires at us, or at peaceful vessels, will be BLOWN TO HELL!”

Trump said in his Truth Social post: “The Blockade will begin shortly. Other Countries will be involved with this Blockade. Additionally and, at an appropriate moment, we are fully “LOCKED AND LOADED,” and our Military will finish up the little that is left of Iran!

Errrr what other countries??

He’s a madman!

Whitewavemark2

Vance is such a prune. He described the peace talks as a marathon - they lasted a day😀😀😀.

He’s a complete ass! I will never forgive his appalling treatment of Zelenskyy!

Cossy

twaddle

Same here, Maizie.

I agree and it’s so sad!

Ironically, all this talk of Shariah Law and Islam, reminds me, just a little of when we, Great Britain, were creating our own Empire, persuading all those other countries to speak English and become Christians.

But Iran isn't creating an Empire of non-Muslims and trying to persuade everybody to speak Persian and worship Islam.

I wonder how much understanding of Shariah law people actually have.

Boz

Again from ToL

President Trump has announced that the US navy will impose a blockade on the Strait of Hormuz.

He warned that “any Iranian who fires at us, or at peaceful vessels, will be BLOWN TO HELL!”

Trump said in his Truth Social post: “The Blockade will begin shortly. Other Countries will be involved with this Blockade. Additionally and, at an appropriate moment, we are fully “LOCKED AND LOADED,” and our Military will finish up the little that is left of Iran!

So the US military is going to finish up the little that is left of Iran? I wonder if he's ever looked at a map and whether he knows how big Iran is. There is no way that he'll destroy Iran by force in the same way Gaza has been destroyed.

Unless he's going to murder every Iranian, there will be millions of them still standing. If Trump thinks that every Iranian has been waiting to be "liberated" by the US and Israel, he's very sadly deluded.

Iran isn't Afghanistan. If women (and men) play the game and keep their heads down, they can have a reasonable life in Iran. They might not approve of the regime, but if they show up in a mosque every now and again and fast at Ramadan, nobody can see inside their brains and know what they're really thinking.

Many Iranians wouldn't complain if the regime were to be overthrown, but equally they wouldn't want a mad American President to be in charge of them. There's currently an internet blackout, so I don't know how much news is getting through to the masses, but presumably they can still access domestic news. If I were in charge of Iranian media, I'd be publicising Trump's outbursts on a daily basis, so the public could see what the alternative to the Iranian regime could be.

Iran may not be? But what about all the groups that David quoted?

Post 17.27pm

Whitewavemark2

Well 100% sure that they wouldn’t fire on a Russian vessel. This has the making of a complete fiasco

Again!

I would like to think not...

But am becoming less convinced of quite how far Trump could go.
In any direction.

fancythat

Iran may not be? But what about all the groups that David quoted?

What about any of them? There's no realistic chance that any of them are in a position to take over the world.