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MV Honduis another casualty.

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Sago Tue 05-May-26 13:25:18

I’m praying for all the passengers on the MV Honduis, I can’t imagine how frightening it must be for all the passengers and crew.

I fully understand the authorities in Cape Verde not allowing passengers to disembark, it could be another Covid all over again.

I guess the ship is basically a floating quarantine station, I just don’t know what the solution is.

According to the news a British crew member (doctor) is seriously ill on board.

LemonJam Fri 08-May-26 14:30:00

Originally there were 150 passengers initially aboard when the journey began on 1 April.

Around 30 passengers disembarked after the first leg of the cruise on 24 April before the first confirmed case on 4 May.

Most recent BBC report in last 30 minutes- "Worldwide race to trace passengers form hantavirus-hit cruise ship'.

7 Brits disembarked on 24 April- 2, a couple, flew back to the UK on the same flight, have been tested, are currently asymptomatic, self isolating for the incubating period and being monitored by the authorities. 4 remained there and one went on to the remote island of Tristan da Cunha.

Two other Brits that were on board have confirmed cases- one was airlifted to the Netherlands and is in a "stable condition" and the other was airlifted to South Africa and remains in intensive care.

Three other British nationals have suspected hantavirus, still on ship.

Similar details for the respective countries of passengers and crew can be found in same BBC news report.

There are 143 remaining on the ship, mix of crew and passengers. Once they reach Tenerife the plan is to medically assess them. If they are deemed to be health their respective countries fly them home to self isolate for the duration of the incubation period. The UK is chartering a private flight to bring uK nationals back to the UK.

OldFrill Sun 10-May-26 12:02:20

Reports suggest the Britons being flown back on a private charter will isolate for 45 in a hospital in Liverpool.

Meanwhile medics have been parachuted into Tristan da Cunha.

Army parachutes onto Tristan da Cunha to help Briton with suspected hantavirus share.google/bcs5sV8dluSK2Oub5

OldFrill Sun 10-May-26 12:02:41

*45 days

LemonJam Sun 10-May-26 13:49:21

Thanks for the update Oldfrill. I'm proud our British military medics have provided overseas medical support to this British man living on such a remote island. Well done to them and I hope this man gets better soon.

MT62 Sun 10-May-26 14:48:16

Ahh that is fab news. I hope he makes a full recovery.

twaddle Sun 10-May-26 14:50:26

OldFrill

Reports suggest the Britons being flown back on a private charter will isolate for 45 in a hospital in Liverpool.

Meanwhile medics have been parachuted into Tristan da Cunha.

Army parachutes onto Tristan da Cunha to help Briton with suspected hantavirus share.google/bcs5sV8dluSK2Oub5

Ahem! The Wirral isn't in Liverpool!

fancythat Sun 10-May-26 15:00:54

BlueBelle

They should have all stayed on board I the boat for the eight weeks incubation Why not ? Better than passing it around in planes and boats etc

I agree.

I was half listening to someone on GB news[Iknow not how "expert" they were], and she ended up disagreeing with herself.
Sounded like she was reading from some sort of script.
Ended up sounding like, she really didnt have a clue.

Like others say, they were so behind on covid, not hard to think "experts" dont have much more clue this time around.

Especially when things seem so lax. Again.

LemonJam Sun 10-May-26 15:18:08

fancythat

BlueBelle

They should have all stayed on board I the boat for the eight weeks incubation Why not ? Better than passing it around in planes and boats etc

I agree.

I was half listening to someone on GB news[Iknow not how "expert" they were], and she ended up disagreeing with herself.
Sounded like she was reading from some sort of script.
Ended up sounding like, she really didnt have a clue.

Like others say, they were so behind on covid, not hard to think "experts" dont have much more clue this time around.

Especially when things seem so lax. Again.

I understand, as soon as the virus was found on testing. became everyone did then stay on the ship, unless airlifted off for treatment. Those that left on 24 April left, before there was any knowledge of the virus on board.

LemonJam Sun 10-May-26 15:28:18

If you read the BBC article in Oldfrill's link, the remaining 22 passengers have will be flown back from Tenerife, in due course to a hospital in the Wirral by private charter flight.

Thus they will be in a safer environment than the ship. They will be in appropriate hospital setting and each have access to qualified professional nurses and doctors and testing capacity. They can be more safely monitored, in an infection control environment, and any treatment that may be necessary, that was not available on the ship will be made available. Though the 22 are believed to be asymptomatic currently.

They will be flown back on charter flight so they will not be exposing other members of the public on various commercial boats and planes.

MT62 Mon 11-May-26 17:41:00

Two more people have it. A USA citizen & a French citizen.

Fallingstar Mon 11-May-26 17:44:29

MT62

Two more people have it. A USA citizen & a French citizen.

Yes, I think one of them, possibly the French passenger, is in a bad way. My thoughts are with the loved ones. It sounds like a horrible illness.

fancythat Mon 11-May-26 17:53:30

OldFrill

FriedGreenTomatoes2

This, from Professor Carl Henegan, sage and voice of reason:

“ Take the current hantavirus scare. A cruise ship, the MV Hondius, sits off Cape Verde. There are 7 cases in total (2 confirmed, 5 suspected) and 3 deaths, including a Dutch couple and a German national. Passengers have been confined to their cabins while evacuations and disinfection efforts are organised. It is, undeniably, a dramatic story: a floating Petri dish, a whiff of quarantine and a hint of the exotic.

In the past week alone, there have been at least 10 to 15 unique news stories, generating hundreds of articles. For a disease that, in normal times, struggles to attract even a single weekly mention, this represents a surge bordering on the hysterical.

And yet it is worth stepping back for a moment and asking, what are we actually looking at?

Hantavirus is a rare disease. In the United States, which diligently tracks such cases, there have been 890 laboratory-confirmed instances since 1993. In the UK, the situation is even less clear: from 2012 to early 2025, only 11 domestically acquired symptomatic cases have been recorded. Surprisingly, nine of these cases were not linked to cruise ships or exotic travel, but rather to a more mundane source—exposure to “pet fancy rats” or rodents bred as reptile feed.

This is not a pathogen ready to spread through the Home Counties. However, the rarity is not the issue; visibility is.

Diseases that afflict the poor, quietly and persistently, rarely command attention. Tuberculosis killed 1.23 million people globally in 2024. Over a million deaths every year, largely concentrated in less affluent parts of the world. It is one of the most lethal infectious diseases known to medicine, and yet it barely registers in the Western news cycle.

Why? Because TB is familiar, it is slow; It lacks narrative flair, and it does not trap well-heeled passengers in their cabins while helicopters circle overhead.

If you want coverage, you need something else entirely. You need novelty, uncertainty, and above all, proximity to affluence. A cruise ship outbreak ticks every box: a disease with a balcony suite.

This is the uncomfortable truth behind Rosling’s ratio: the media does not report risk, it reports drama. And drama requires context that audiences can imagine themselves in.

A rodent-borne virus in some remote rural setting barely registers. Put that very same virus aboard a cruise ship with buffet queues, balcony cabins and a passenger list that looks uncomfortably like the readership, and suddenly it becomes headline news.

The result is a profound distortion of public perception. We are invited to worry about the improbable while ignoring the inevitable and reality. A handful of hantavirus cases generates dozens of headlines; a million tuberculosis deaths pass with barely a murmur.

If we were to apply Rosling’s lens to the present moment, the imbalance would be obvious. Three deaths linked to a suspected hantavirus cluster have produced hundreds of reports in a matter of days. Meanwhile, tuberculosis continues its relentless toll with scarcely a fraction of that attention. The modern “news-to-death ratio” may not be precisely 8,176-to-1, but the underlying pattern remains intact.

The lesson here isn’t truly about hantavirus; instead, it’s about how we collectively determine what is significant.

Diseases associated with poverty—those that are endemic, predictable, and devastating—often fail to attract media attention because they don’t instil fear in the right audience or in the right way. No one is interested in the thousands of cholera deaths that are too remote, too ordinary, and lack the dramatic impact that draws interest. What commands attention are diseases that puncture our sense of safety, the kind that can slip past the gangway and make themselves at home on a cruise ship.

This post was written by two old geezers who live in a world where risk is misread, priorities are skewed, and the arithmetic of attention bears little resemblance to the arithmetic of death.”

Is this Carl Heneghan who said COVID wasn't airborne.

I very much take the point.

But it is potential that is the alarming part.

OldFrill Tue 12-May-26 00:03:15

twaddle

OldFrill

Reports suggest the Britons being flown back on a private charter will isolate for 45 in a hospital in Liverpool.

Meanwhile medics have been parachuted into Tristan da Cunha.

Army parachutes onto Tristan da Cunha to help Briton with suspected hantavirus share.google/bcs5sV8dluSK2Oub5

Ahem! The Wirral isn't in Liverpool!

Yes apologies the confusion arose as Liverpool University Hospital TDI is also involved in assessing/treating those isolating, but yes, they are, for now, quarantined in the Wirral.

Sarnia Tue 12-May-26 07:13:20

OldFrill

twaddle

OldFrill

Reports suggest the Britons being flown back on a private charter will isolate for 45 in a hospital in Liverpool.

Meanwhile medics have been parachuted into Tristan da Cunha.

Army parachutes onto Tristan da Cunha to help Briton with suspected hantavirus share.google/bcs5sV8dluSK2Oub5

Ahem! The Wirral isn't in Liverpool!

Yes apologies the confusion arose as Liverpool University Hospital TDI is also involved in assessing/treating those isolating, but yes, they are, for now, quarantined in the Wirral.

Surely they should be kept in quarantine for longer than 72 hours when the incubation period is up to 6 weeks.

GrannyGravy13 Tue 12-May-26 07:43:26

I cannot imagine how these passengers and crew feel.

They are just in limbo for the next 6 weeks, waiting to see if they are going to be seriously ill…

BlueBelle Tue 12-May-26 07:47:55

They are using charter plane now but some have been on commercial planes, indeed the first wife that died was boarding a commercial planewhen she was taken ill and died (according to newspaper items) and wasn’t a French crew member on a commercial flight

fancythat Tue 12-May-26 09:03:49

With covid, people didnt obey the rules of one week or whatever it was.
People wont obey 6 weeks.

Basgetti Tue 12-May-26 12:59:44

fancythat

With covid, people didnt obey the rules of one week or whatever it was.
People wont obey 6 weeks.

Millions stuck strictly to the rules.

They would again if (when) there is another pandemic, especially if it affected children.

petra Tue 12-May-26 13:13:57

fancythat

With covid, people didnt obey the rules of one week or whatever it was.
People wont obey 6 weeks.

Obviously you weren’t a member of GN at that time.
If you were you would see how very wrong your post is.
Or you were on another plant 🤷‍♀️

twaddle Tue 12-May-26 23:06:59

fancythat

With covid, people didnt obey the rules of one week or whatever it was.
People wont obey 6 weeks.

Who are these people? Yes, there were some and I'm sure you remember the disagreements. Many people did follow all the rules, even though they kept changing.

Maremia Wed 13-May-26 10:45:15

Most of us obeyed the rules, but there was one Poster, who hasn't been around recently, who claimed to have ignored them.
The name escapes me.

fancythat Wed 13-May-26 11:24:56

fancythat

With covid, people didnt obey the rules of one week or whatever it was.
People wont obey 6 weeks.

Politicians, people behind closed doors, people who wanted to still get on with working.

I cant believe that even GN didnt know people who disobeyed the rules.
Dont really want to have to go to the covid threads to find where people said so.

fancythat Wed 13-May-26 11:28:15

It didnt exactly take me long to find a thread

www.gransnet.com/forums/coronavirus/1281158-Don-t-do-as-I-do-do-as-I-say

fancythat Wed 13-May-26 11:30:45

Are people so quick to forget?

And people think those same people[and more] will stick with a 45 day quarantine??!!