Revolving door politics

I just saw a clip of Anne Widdecombe saying that in the past there were just two main parties but now there is a serious contender in Reform and people are voting for them because they are fed up with both Labour and Conservatives and want change. She is a wise old owl and yes, I do know she is in Reform.

Which family is that? His new one or the one he walked out on? As for being a buffoon, it wasn’t a good look seeing him at international functions with his shirt hanging out. Fiddling about with umbrellas and rambling on about Peppa Pig when giving talks…he was a total embarrassment on the world stage.

Oh and then there was the picture of him with a hangover after partying with Lebedev ( who he then have a knighthood to) when he was Foreign Minister. Good job the press were there to see it because I believe he gave his security guards the slip….

Primrose, do you not scan the headlines of the national press?If you look further back in this site you will see two examples , one from the Mail and one from the Express showing exactly that bias.Perfect examples of the tack the right wing press have taken.

Sadly it’s a game he looses every week as he can never answer a question LD.

Spinnaker

FGT I knew what you meant but couldn't resist 😂

That’s why I thought I’d best correct my post!!
Others may not have understood what I meant and assumed I was being derogatory.

I see Jess Phillips is the 2nd cabinet Minister giving Starmer the push.

He’s on shaky ground.
More will pile in as the day goes on.

Bye bye Starmer I think.
Shame really I think the next up will be more left wing.

How many Labour MPs are there ?How many have said they will not support Keir Starmer ? That leaves how many ?
Media stirring like mad. Today's 1 o'clock BBC news for example, interviewing several against, but I didn't see any for, Perhaps I blinked.

403 Labour MPs. 82 so far have said they want him to go, so 321 don’t.

Is easy for an opposition party and its leaders to do well atPMQs, they have nothing to lose and everything to gain, is very different when in power.

Casdon

403 Labour MPs. 82 so far have said they want him to go, so 321 don’t.

Ask yourself why they are not shouting out their endorsement of the PM?

Even those doing the daily morning media junket are hesitant in their wording regards to the PM’s tenure of No.10.

They are more interested in keeping their seats, career politicians through and through, with the wellbeing of the electorate an afterthought.

Casdon

403 Labour MPs. 82 so far have said they want him to go, so 321 don’t.

Obviously a plot to somehow shoehorn Burnham in despite it being impossible, or for other opportunists to come rushing to the fore. I do like Andy Burnham but all this cloak and daggers
stuff is making me see him in a different light.
Is not a good look for the party, okay the local elections were dire but that isn’t just down to Starmer, unlike the US a PM works WITH a political party and cannot do anything unilaterally. Time for everyone in Labour to get their heads screwed on and try to fix what is reflecting so badly upon them.
Personality politics is not the way to go.

So it ever was GrannyGravy13.

They are more interested in keeping their seats, career politicians through and through, with the wellbeing of the electorate an afterthought.

I always think that judgements like this are unfair. You have no idea what motivated people to stand for parliament.

I agree GrannyGravy and I think most people can see this for what it is. It reflects far worse upon the careerist politicians jostling to oust Starmer than it does on the PM.

MaizieD

^They are more interested in keeping their seats, career politicians through and through, with the wellbeing of the electorate an afterthought.^

I always think that judgements like this are unfair. You have no idea what motivated people to stand for parliament.

We had a MP in the extended family who lost their seat in the last GE.

Their summary of the reasons people become MP’s is far more critical than my post.

Those MP’s that they knew and know are firmly in two camps, and those wanting to make society better are declining in numbers.

Being an MP is now more and more becoming a stepping stone to big £££££

I can't blame Jess Philips for resigning after he rather insulted her by appointing Harman.
If you read her resignation letter it gives an example of his reluctance to take any firm and speedy steps to improve safety for young people.

Why people think a change of leadership will miraculously mean a booming economy beats me. Yes Starmer is a disappointing stuffed shirt who lacks charisma, but what this country needs is a bit of stability, not yet another leadership contest leading to yet another disappointment, stirred up by the media. Im just grateful he didn’t have his nose up Trumps backside , unlike some of his opponents, and drag is into a ridiculous war.

This is all ridiculous.

Why?

There is no candidate to hand. Duh. And I include my own MP in this rush.

And it’s not a leadership election process like in the Conservative Party, it’s complex and takes time.

They have let the press get to them.

Primrose53

I just saw a clip of Anne Widdecombe saying that in the past there were just two main parties but now there is a serious contender in Reform and people are voting for them because they are fed up with both Labour and Conservatives and want change. She is a wise old owl and yes, I do know she is in Reform.

She’s anti abortion but pro death penalty. Does that make her a wise old owl. (not in my eyes)

Well Starmer has stood his ground and there will not be a leadership contest. My guess is that he will reshuffle the cabinet and Streeting will be replaced, as will others who had the knives out.
He toughed it out with Trump and now he is toughing it out with his own party and the electorate..
Whatever people might say about him he is certainly tenacious.
Now let’s see what the King’s speech reveals.

The funniest thing about a dreadful debacle has been watching Beth Rigby, who now looks like a bulldog with a mouth full of wasps.

Love that image. 🤣

Casdon

The funniest thing about a dreadful debacle has been watching Beth Rigby, who now looks like a bulldog with a mouth full of wasps.

Brilliant!

Sam Coates is frothing at the mouth with the excitement of it all. It’s a very unedifying spectacle when so-called ‘political journalists’ can’t hide their joy at playing a part in the downfall of a Prime Minister.

Him and Rigby really do deserve each other.

Primrose53

I just saw a clip of Anne Widdecombe saying that in the past there were just two main parties but now there is a serious contender in Reform and people are voting for them because they are fed up with both Labour and Conservatives and want change. She is a wise old owl and yes, I do know she is in Reform.

Poor old duck, she must have forgotten the Liberals and Lib Dems.

MayBee70

Which family is that? His new one or the one he walked out on? As for being a buffoon, it wasn’t a good look seeing him at international functions with his shirt hanging out. Fiddling about with umbrellas and rambling on about Peppa Pig when giving talks…he was a total embarrassment on the world stage.

Highly intelligent and his private life is just that, private. Imo he is one of the best PM’s we have ever had. He had a sense of humour as well. He would have won a landslide again, and was stabbed in the back. I will never vote Tory again.