Govt announces Ukrainian style scheme to bring thousands more migrants to UK

Apologies for any confusion.

A Somali-born British man has been arrested on suspicion of attempted murder and dangerous driving after a car hit a group of pedestrians in London.

Scotland Yard said five people were injured after a car collided with multiple people in Ealing Broadway, west London, at 2.29pm on Saturday.

A 34 year old man ‘did not stop at the scene’ but was apprehended soon after, half a mile away.

And?

You seem to have forgotten about all the cases of dangerous driving perpetuated by white British people.#

Do you remember the Liverpool FC football team's victory parade last year? A white British man, Paul Doyle from Croxteth in Liverpool, was convicted of 31 charges.

There was a thread on that idiot also 🤦‍♀️

Dangerous driving?
Oh and that dreadful story about the 2 schoolgirls killed in their playground. I think the lenient sentence given to the driver was appealed.

GrannyGravy13

There was a thread on that idiot also 🤦‍♀️

I think the use of the word ‘idiot’ rather down plays his action.

Is it now the 'rule' that if a person has been discussed on a different Thread they should not be mentioned again, no matter how relevant?
Just seeking clarification of Thread rules.

Maremia

Is it now the 'rule' that if a person has been discussed on a different Thread they should not be mentioned again, no matter how relevant?
Just seeking clarification of Thread rules.

I’m not sure if what I posted breaks this rule but I can see it might I just wanted to point out how judgements are made on GN elsewhere but somehow criticised on this thread.

Wrong thread - duh . Ignore

Thank you for the clarification FGT.

A large part of the problem is the two tier justice system in Europe.

An expert witness in the case of a German gang rape of a 15 year old girl stated the rape was a way to vent frustration due to their migrant experience.
Sex can ward off the feelings of sadness and loneliness, this is also a justification for drug use.

There is no hope.

We hosted a Sudanese asylum seeker 30 years ago for about 6 months. The civil war there was terrible . Peter was from Juba in the Christian South and was a mature student in Edinburgh when we heard of his plight. He sought asylum and managed, via the church, to bring his wife and 2 children here to join him. His mother died in a refugee camp in Kenya.

Once his family arrived he was so relieved and relaxed. They found housing in Edinburgh and are still here. Both found work and their DC are doing well.

Since then ofcourse the political situation has changed in both our countries. South Sudan became a separate country but the fighting continues.

Here the sympathy for people escaping war has waned.

Btw Peter is the most anti -Moslem person I know.

I thought he would return to Sudan once the war was over. He would tell us of the beauty of his country. The fertile Nile valley the forests and animals. He was a vet.

I think here people probably like to think their good deed isn't going to be forever. 6 months yes but surely not for longer.

We should be putting our resources into creating peace in these war-torn countries instead of picking the sores of the horrible incidents we hear of in the news.

Tuliptree, sorry if I have caused confusion.
I was referring to a post by GG13.

Grammarerto our (UK) involvement in foreign wars and/or affairs has a rather chequered history

I know GrannyGravy but the alternative is worse!

GrannyGravy13

Grammarerto our (UK) involvement in foreign wars and/or affairs has a rather chequered history

It certainly does!

All the more reason that we (the UK) should offer refuge to those fleeing foreign conflicts.

Maremia

Tuliptree, sorry if I have caused confusion.
I was referring to a post by GG13.

And I got the wrong thread anyway 😀

Be careful who you let into your home. For two years an elderly couple in Sunbury-on-Thames looked after an 16 year old Iraqi called Ahmed Hassan who had claimed to be an asylum seeker. Then aged 18 he planted a bomb on the tube train at Parsons Green in 2017. It was an act of terrorism and 30 people were injured. He was arrested at Dover on his way out of the country and sentenced to life imprisonment with a minimum of 34 years. The jury believed he was older than he said.

Chestnut

Be careful who you let into your home. For two years an elderly couple in Sunbury-on-Thames looked after an 16 year old Iraqi called Ahmed Hassan who had claimed to be an asylum seeker. Then aged 18 he planted a bomb on the tube train at Parsons Green in 2017. It was an act of terrorism and 30 people were injured. He was arrested at Dover on his way out of the country and sentenced to life imprisonment with a minimum of 34 years. The jury believed he was older than he said.

Apparently the couple were highly experienced foster parents and he was being fostered by them whilst his asylum claim was being investigated The authorities knew about his extremely views/ links but did not tell the couple

Yes, of course be careful.
All of these previous incidents will serve to focus on who is genuine and who is not.

Didn't know that Tulip.
Crossed posts.
Unfair, to keep that info from the couple.

Maremia

Yes, of course be careful.
All of these previous incidents will serve to focus on who is genuine and who is not.

Therein lies the problem, I haven’t noticed anyone advertising that they are future rapists, terrorists or murderers.

Those arriving by small boats have been advised to destroy their paperwork, this is an enormous problem for our border control teams.

If you re-read Tulip's post, you will discover that there was in fact relevant information, that the authority concerned chose to not share.

Sago the question I asked which you haven't answered was,
"if currently the ethnicity of criminals isn't recorded, what makes you think immigration is relevant? "
Actually the Ministry of Justice does collect information on the ethnicity of prisoners but it does not record immigration status. There isn't any evidence to suggest that immigrants, "illegal" or otherwise commit more crimes than British nationals but perhaps when they are convicted of a crime it is possible that this is more widely reported in the media? If you find anything that provides evidence that "immigrants" commit more crimes, if you attach a link, I will, of course, read it.

Yes, enormous authentication problems, which is why I keep going on about now being the time to recruit an effective and properly resourced task force to vet these applications.
It is important.
It should be a priority.
It would be a skilled occupation for our young folk , now that AI is taking so many entry level jobs from graduates and co.

foxie48

Sago the question I asked which you haven't answered was,
"if currently the ethnicity of criminals isn't recorded, what makes you think immigration is relevant? "
Actually the Ministry of Justice does collect information on the ethnicity of prisoners but it does not record immigration status. There isn't any evidence to suggest that immigrants, "illegal" or otherwise commit more crimes than British nationals but perhaps when they are convicted of a crime it is possible that this is more widely reported in the media? If you find anything that provides evidence that "immigrants" commit more crimes, if you attach a link, I will, of course, read it.

I suppose if you believe something, it's easy enough to find evidence to back up your thoughts.