Shocking Stabbing

It took 40 seconds to find out the ethnicity of the man by entering the sentence with the name in from the O/P

result (BBC)

"Yes, Daniel Sean James is a white British man. Court and police proceedings identify him as a British male of Caucasian descent"

There simply is not the publicity there would have been had it been a man of diverse ethnicity actually breaking onto a house and going into someones bedroom to stab them to death

It would have hit the headlines in most newspapers. IMO no use pretending it could be otherwise.

Actually Wyllow all too often the ethnicity of suspects is often withheld if they are not white to avoid whipping up racist hatred before cases have been examined.

A decision is made 'to avoid whipping up racial hatred'
and
'before cases have been examined'.
Should Posters also observe the same restraints?

25Avalon

Actually Wyllow all too often the ethnicity of suspects is often withheld if they are not white to avoid whipping up racist hatred before cases have been examined.

The trouble with that is, that a lack of transparency can result in disinformation, which is often a far bigger problem for society.

I think that there was a new informal agreement, after the Southport riots, to encourage both police and press to declare the ethnicity of any suspect, thus avoiding any unfounded speculation.

As far as I can check this is the latest interim guidance on the matter issued by the College of Policing last year

‘When disclosure may be appropriate
The national guidance advises that forces should confirm the nationality and/or ethnicity of the suspect or defendant (where known or recorded) in high profile, or sensitive investigations or operations where there is:

a policing purpose in doing so
a related risk or impact on public safety such as rising community tension
misinformation or disinformation leading to community tension
a significant level of media or social media interest’

There are between 500-600 murders each year in the U.K.

Each one is one too many as far as I am concerned, regardless of the ethnicity of the perpetrator.

The ethnicity becomes a problem when the perpetrator is not born in the U.K., and has come to this country for sanctuary.

In my opinion this inflames the situation as it is an abuse of the UK’s generosity, not an act of someone grateful to have been given asylum from whatever evils and horrors they were fleeing.

Maremia

A decision is made 'to avoid whipping up racial hatred'
and
'before cases have been examined'.
Should Posters also observe the same restraints?

Why ?

The ethnicity is just always a problem regardless of whether the person was born here or not. It inflames the situation because it is whipped up by racists supported by the likes of Farage.

A few months ago there was a frankly bizarre situation not far from where I live A young woman claimed to have been gang raped. There was public disorder with the usual flag waving young men attacking the police for not releasing the ethnicity information on the suspects. This proved difficult for the police as the rape never happened so there was no information re ethnicity ( or anything else) to release.

Tuliptree

A few months ago there was a frankly bizarre situation not far from where I live A young woman claimed to have been gang raped. There was public disorder with the usual flag waving young men attacking the police for not releasing the ethnicity information on the suspects. This proved difficult for the police as the rape never happened so there was no information re ethnicity ( or anything else) to release.

It sounds like you live near me. I remember that incident. The Police are damned if they do and damned if they don't.

Why, nanna?
Simple.
'To avoid whipping up racial hatred'

Sarnia - exactly. I felt really sorry for the police and local inhabitants and businesses. It was a scarey time

MissAdventure

The issue for me is that a young woman was stabbed to death in her own home.
Now, if she had phoned to police and they'd said "Stabbed? I don't think you were, love"...

That’s exactly it.
are posters wilfully misunderstanding in order to try and twist things to make out that other posters or the UK population don’t care two hoots about a young woman being murdered in her own home by an intruder because he was white?I think they are, and why? To spread dissent?

Oreo - no wilful misunderstanding here.

Oreo in my opinion you are correct in your assessment of the situation 👍

Tuliptree

The ethnicity is just always a problem regardless of whether the person was born here or not. It inflames the situation because it is whipped up by racists supported by the likes of Farage.

Tbh there is whipping up outrage on this thread about the ethnicity of the attacker.Implying that nobody cares about the victim when that’s patently untrue.

MissAdventure

The issue for me is that a young woman was stabbed to death in her own home.
Now, if she had phoned to police and they'd said "Stabbed? I don't think you were, love"...

Exactly 👍

Nobody should be murdered in their bed in their own home!

Tuliptree

Is the suspect white? There your answer if he is .

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It is just more division. Dividing people up according to skin colour is done by both sides, the progressives just can't see it.

Tuliptree

My point is that if he is white that explains the lack of outrage at the slaughter of a Sikh woman.

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Because it isnt and never has been about the safety of women, it never has been, it is about politics.

That’s a terrible thing to say Tuliptree
Reform supporters are not NF supporters, many are disgruntled former Labour supporters.