It's Harry's personal duty to ensure his children are safe Plevey, not his father's.
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(112 Posts)King Charles has issued a letter stating that H&M are not working Royals and as such should be treated as normal citizens of they attend anything. Also their HRH titles can Still NOT be used.
Laying down the ground rules.
Harry keeps on about their security but surely they had some in the USA which they had to pay for so why is it different in the UK.
I don't see how it makes a difference to their ability to make money and for people to make money from them. They are notorious now and that always attracts. Of course they won't be invited to the big gigs but they will create their own following and court probably internationally.
The King is not going to live in BP changed his mind after £300odd million spent.. The ticket sales to BP would help pay to back, but Charles gets the money.
No such thing as working royals.
It may well be a way of protecting them.
They have the cheek of the old Nick. Shame on them.
I think Charles did right. I know the history between them but Harry made his choice to leave and come back. Like many families your either with us or without.
IMO the King wanted to explicitly reiterate, to anyone who cares, that Harry and Meghan remain non-working, private citizens whose "HRH" (His/Her Royal Highness) titles remain in abeyance. It emphasizes that any charity work they do is entirely personal and does not represent the Sovereign.
Done and dusted.
Wales should have a say if they want a prince of Wales. Should have a say.
It's a given Smileless that it's Harry's and Meghan's duty to keep their children safe. As it is all of ours (hopefully.) But being born into an institution ie The British Royal family, safety and security is needed to an exceptional higher level. They are potentially a global target. They may not be working royals but that level of security will always be needed. Even more so now, as they could potentially be an easy target to a malign extremist group or even a lone anti-monarchist.
Because the cost of security would be exceptionally high and I doubt the General Public would be in agreement to this, and nor should they, I am surprised/shocked that the King doesn't privately fund or partly contribute to their security. They are his son, DIL and grandchildren. So yes I do think KC is also responsible for the extraordinary circumstances of the spare and family.
Plevey08
It's a given Smileless that it's Harry's and Meghan's duty to keep their children safe. As it is all of ours (hopefully.) But being born into an institution ie The British Royal family, safety and security is needed to an exceptional higher level. They are potentially a global target. They may not be working royals but that level of security will always be needed. Even more so now, as they could potentially be an easy target to a malign extremist group or even a lone anti-monarchist.
Because the cost of security would be exceptionally high and I doubt the General Public would be in agreement to this, and nor should they, I am surprised/shocked that the King doesn't privately fund or partly contribute to their security. They are his son, DIL and grandchildren. So yes I do think KC is also responsible for the extraordinary circumstances of the spare and family.
I agree king should pay contribute for security he is a billionaire.
But the royals dont pay for anything. Security for them costs us £150 million.
I agree that an accident of birth makes the Sussex family more of a target and maybe they should have some help with security.
However they could reduce the risk by keeping a lower profile and not courting publicity.
Why is there so much fuss about Harry and Meghan? Why can't they be allowed to get on with their lives without all the press intrusion?
Because they are "celebrities".
If they choose to live quietly and get on with things, press "intrusion" would drop 90% almost overnight.
If they have concerns about the lack of security in the UK, why on earth did they come back? If they are more of a target it's of H & M's making.
I get the impression that Harry doesnt accept realities in his life.
He is the spare. He needs to accept.
Meghan isnt universally liked. He needs to accept.
He may never get free security. He needs to accept.
He cant be half in and half out of the Royal Family. He needs to accept.
I hope this means that Harry and Megan doesn’t get a penny of tax payers money
I think that is the idea. From what I have read.
fancythat
I get the impression that Harry doesnt accept realities in his life.
He is the spare. He needs to accept.
Meghan isnt universally liked. He needs to accept.
He may never get free security. He needs to accept.
He cant be half in and half out of the Royal Family. He needs to accept.
Reality of Harry's life: he is son to the King, his children are grandchildren to the King. The King, as his father, could accept paying for their protection. I believe the King has the funds.
Estrellita
Why is there so much fuss about Harry and Meghan? Why can't they be allowed to get on with their lives without all the press intrusion?
Mainly because they want the attention. Members of other royal families have chosen to opt out of royal life. They too have usually gone to the USA and have ordinary day jobs and live in ordinary suburban houses and lead a private life. Had H&M done that we would now be getting the odd papparazzi shot as they passed through airports about their rightful business but little else.
They are getting all the extra attention because they ask for it and because they left this country because they hoped to make a fortune trading off their royal connections in the USA.
We have had the Oprah interview and the book, and the Duchess has tried to set up an aspirational website selling the sort of things people think royalty might eat or use in their homes. Unfortunately that has not gone well, so they have hightailed it back to the UK to try to make money in this country from their quasi royal status.
H&M are just troublemakers. I was looking at a photo today of Harry on his first day at Eton and reflecting that he spends so much time feeling hard done by and wronged that its easy to forget the life he had before he decided to throw it away. The investment of all that expensive education was to prepare him for service to our country as it was for William and as it is for George. Unlike the other pupils at Eton they dont get to choose their path in life. Unless of course they reject it and refuse to contribute positively.
Entitled brat, he is just so bad and they both want the importance of all
The entourage and police riders ect upon their arrival anywhere. It’s not worth £5 million it will cost us for their ego trip.
Norah
fancythat
I get the impression that Harry doesnt accept realities in his life.
He is the spare. He needs to accept.
Meghan isnt universally liked. He needs to accept.
He may never get free security. He needs to accept.
He cant be half in and half out of the Royal Family. He needs to accept.Reality of Harry's life: he is son to the King, his children are grandchildren to the King. The King, as his father, could accept paying for their protection. I believe the King has the funds.
Has he asked him?
We may never know.
If I was in the King position, would I pay?
I dont think I would.
Where would the list of demands end? Nowhere. They would just go on and on...
Thinking about it more, why should the King pay?
Norah
fancythat
I get the impression that Harry doesnt accept realities in his life.
He is the spare. He needs to accept.
Meghan isnt universally liked. He needs to accept.
He may never get free security. He needs to accept.
He cant be half in and half out of the Royal Family. He needs to accept.Reality of Harry's life: he is son to the King, his children are grandchildren to the King. The King, as his father, could accept paying for their protection. I believe the King has the funds.
Even if Charles did that, he could not pay for armed protection, which is what Harry wants, as that is unlawful in this country.
He isn't asking for armed protection. He will be aware of the differences of USA and Uk.
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