Major incident declared this morning near RAF Fairford with home evacuated.

I don’t think that is the case at all with a major police investigation nanna8. I think they want to follow up on all avenues, and when that is done and the motives are clear we will be told, and not before.

So far two scenarios spring to mind as one of the masked guys rang the Police on 999 an hour before the farmer saw them.
One, it was a stunt just to cause trouble
Two, they were thieves but got spooked by someone or something and were scared.

Oreo

So far two scenarios spring to mind as one of the masked guys rang the Police on 999 an hour before the farmer saw them.
One, it was a stunt just to cause trouble
Two, they were thieves but got spooked by someone or something and were scared.

I saw that Oreo but there was no explanation as to WHY he rang the Police.

Why did they have 3 white vans with false signage on and if they were fuel thieves (which I don't think they were) why drive all that way to a sensitive area next to an RAF base to steal it. I don't think it was a stunt why would you go to the trouble of getting 3 white vans with false signage on for what end and who owns the vans. I don't think.we will ever know the truth

Perhaps the one who rang the police was undercover and had infiltrated this group. The mind boggles.

Hope the Police tell us soon🤔

Oreo

Hope the Police tell us soon🤔

Amen to that.
It just gets rummer and rummer.
The OH thinks its Russia indirectly via dumb recruits testing our Security Services motivated by a lot of dosh , no questions asked.
The phone call from the group member either an infiltrator or the ignorant guy " just following orders" as agreed, to collect the other half of his payoff?
Or do we watch too many spy programmes ?

Peacelilydilly

Perhaps the one who rang the police was undercover and had infiltrated this group. The mind boggles.

I am surprised that the information re the phone call would have been broadcast if so.
How did The Times, which first reported it, find out?

I can't get on The Times
its behind a paywall but found this from The Telegraph its certainly strange but do you remember the arson attacks on Starmers old properties and car how strange was that.

However, The Times reported that one of the five suspects had phoned 999 in the early hours of Sunday morning.

It is unclear whether the reported call was motivated by a desire to sow chaos or because the suspect had doubts about going ahead with a plan.

Officials previously said they had received a call relating to three “suspicious vehicles which appeared to be travelling towards the air base” at 12.45am on Sunday.

However, a farmer who spotted the men and three vehicles said she had raised the alarm at 1.36am.

The 3 vehicles could have been 2 from the police and one from the suspects, those wearing masks could have been firearms officers from police.
Diesel, Ive no idea how thats involved

You can be sure if they had serious terrorist intent they would not have been bailed. My guess is they were idiots that had a previous police record and known to them

David49

The 3 vehicles could have been 2 from the police and one from the suspects, those wearing masks could have been firearms officers from police.
Diesel, Ive no idea how thats involved

You can be sure if they had serious terrorist intent they would not have been bailed. My guess is they were idiots that had a previous police record and known to them

No, the vehicles belonged to the men involved. The men were hooded and masked.

"The men had been travelling in three vehicles. Overnight, those vehicles have been subject to extensive examination, with the support of military assets and forensic experts."
Assistant Commissioner Laurence Taylor

Investigations are ongoing.

Seems Nigel Farage was right again.

Andy Burnham has said there are “strong indications that Iran played a part” in the suspected terror plot near RAF Fairford.

The Prime Minister said an investigation into the incident was “ongoing, complex and serious”, adding that Britain was working closely with the United States.

“We will say more in due course, but we can confirm our belief that we believe Iran to have played a part"

Did you watch Nigel Farage saying what he thought? I did.

David49

The 3 vehicles could have been 2 from the police and one from the suspects, those wearing masks could have been firearms officers from police.
Diesel, Ive no idea how thats involved

You can be sure if they had serious terrorist intent they would not have been bailed. My guess is they were idiots that had a previous police record and known to them

Diesel, Ive no idea how thats involved

Misinformation, it was petrol not diesel apparently. Apologies, I think it was stated somewhere that it was diesel.

(I do know the difference, having once nearly put petrol in a diesel car.)

Peacelilydilly

Seems Nigel Farage was right again.

Andy Burnham has said there are “strong indications that Iran played a part” in the suspected terror plot near RAF Fairford.

The Prime Minister said an investigation into the incident was “ongoing, complex and serious”, adding that Britain was working closely with the United States.

“We will say more in due course, but we can confirm our belief that we believe Iran to have played a part"

Facts- Farage was wrong again! If you're not already aware those arrested were British Nationals. Background to Farage's embarassing social media commentary on the incident at the weekend:

....Nigel Farage was described as a “master of the conspiracy theory” by the culture secretary, after he tried to link events at RAF Fairford to small boat crossings 🤷‍♀️🥱.

The Reform UK leader was criticised over his reaction to the arrests of the men on Sunday, when he said he had been warning for months about “Iranian agents” coming into the UK across the Channel in small boats. “We deserve to be told the truth about the Fairford bomb plotters’ identities,” he added in his post on X on Sunday.

On Monday he posted a video in which he claimed to have received intelligence that the Iranian regime was using the small boats “to get their operatives into Britain”.
Less than an hour later, Counter Terrorism Policing (CTP) said that the five suspects were all British nationals.

Farage's intelligence was wrong's it usually is! Authorities asked the public not to speculate at that stage whilst it continued to investigate - as is right and proper. Farage and his incorrect conspiracy theories sadly cannot be parted.

Farage would have ended up with less egg on his face if he had waited for investigation facts rather than promote small boat conspiracy theories 🤣😂😂

Farage is not getting any intelligence from the authorities either, he isn’t entitled to receive it, it only goes to the government of the day. What he calls intelligence is actually unreliable information.

Of course the authorities don’t want the public to speculate!

Same as the tragic murder of Ann Widdecombe. We weren’t supposed to speculate on that and where are we now with that? A deafening silence, poor woman.

Speculation about criminal investigations is damaging in so many ways.

You've moved on from Farage being wrong to criticising the authorities for saying they sought to investigate and making a comment about not speculating.

People always speculate but Political party leaders like Farage should not! Farage speculating on X and making small boat conspiracy theory comments carries a risk of civil unrest, small boat protesters, and Farage's followers inciting racial hatred like Lucy Connelly after Southport murders following Farage's incorrect conspiracy theory X comments on that occasions. He just never learns and doesn't appear to care. Thats why Counter Terrorist Police shut Farage down within the hour!

It's only Wednesday and there has not been a 'deafening' silence' on Fairford incident as you infer Primrose.

Seems like you do want the public to speculate with conspiracy theories like Farage's comments and damn the risk and consequences! You have even posted he was right!

From the times…The suspected bomb attack on a RAF base was foiled when one of the suspects made a call to police, The Times has learnt.
One of the five men phoned 999 in the early hours of Sunday morning before the group was arrested on suspicion of explosives and terrorist offences in the proximity of RAF Fairford.
The Times understands that the police investigation is focused on whether the group members were acting as proxies for Iran during the operation in the Gloucestershire countryside. Whether it was surveillance, a “dry run” to test security or a stunt to send a message to the British government are all under consideration.
The suspect's motives in calling police are also under investigation: whether he got cold feet or whether it was part of the plan.
The men were arrested on Sunday near the perimeter of RAF Fairford, the Gloucestershire base used by the US air force as a staging post for strikes in the Middle East

The group of British citizens, all aged in their mid-twenties and living in London, were released on bail on Monday.
The revelation that one of the men called police themselves will deepen the intrigue surrounding the incident.
Fears of an imminent terrorist attack were downgraded when experts found fuel, not explosives, in the three vans the men were driving. Sources dismissed online speculation that they were fuel thieves.
Laurence Taylor, the national head of counterterrorism, said on Tuesday night: “Those vehicles have been subject to extensive
examination, with the support of military assets and forensic experts, and we can confirm that no improvised explosive devices were found. However, a quantity of petrol was recovered.”
A farmer driving home in the early hours of Sunday morning saw the vans, surrounded by men in balaclavas, and alerted police at 1.36am. However, The Times understands the authorities were already on the scene by then because the suspect had called nearly one hour earlier.
The base was already on high alert, with increased barricades and patrols, because of separate intelligence indicating a serious…

against Fairford in July because it is a staging post for US strikes in the Middle East.
President Trump has said that the group was being watched and
also questioned the decision to bail those arrested. Marco Rubio, the US secretary of state, then said it “clearly involves the hands of a foreign actor”.
On Tuesday Trump reiterated his criticism.
He said: “I'm just disappointed that they caught terrorists. How do you give bail to a terrorist?
“These were serious people, seriously bad people and they should not have done that yet.”
He added that the operation in Suffolk was “longstanding” and “we were involved in it”.
Any police investigation is expected to take weeks and detectives will consider whether it meets the threshold of the National Security Act. The legislation carries penalties of up to 14 years in prison for proxies who carry out espionage, sabotage or physical acts for hostile states including Iran. Ignorance is not necessarily a defence: criminals will be liable for prosecution if they “ought reasonably to know” they were acting for a foreign power.
The authorities have warned that Iran and other hostile states are increasingly using proxies, often low-level criminals who are given small amounts of cash for carrying out “dirty work” in Britain. This has taken the form of intimidation, violence or arson.
On Tuesday Taylor said police had searched properties in London in connection with the investigation. He also defended the police bail decision.

He said: “They remain under investigation and must adhere to strict conditions while we continue our work. The safety of the public is at the forefront of our investigative decision making, and this was certainly the case yesterday.
“I understand why this development will have come as a surprise to many, but I'd like to reiterate that it was an investigative decision, and one which is grounded in experience and careful consideration of policing powers.”

Primrose53

Of course the authorities don’t want the public to speculate!

Same as the tragic murder of Ann Widdecombe. We weren’t supposed to speculate on that and where are we now with that? A deafening silence, poor woman.

No "deafening silence" at all, perhaps you weren't paying attention. From public press and media reports;

AW was found on July 9th. A suspect was arrested on July 11th and charged with murder. He appeared in court and was remanded in custody.

Court dates are pending on October 9 for a case management hearing, before a further plea and trial preparation hearing on November 20.

A provisional trial date is listed for June 8 2027.

Casdon

Speculation about criminal investigations is damaging in so many ways.

It certainly is, especially when we have vigilante mobs such as the Patriot Platform and The Pink Ladies.

Do people never learn!