The UK’s “one in, one out” migrant deal with France is on the brink of collapse, with a senior French immigration official claiming: “It’s over.”

Not everybody understands the concept of pilot schemes, as demonstrated.

What was that working arrangement we had before BREXIT?
Such a pity we lost that.

All these schemes are a load of rubbish. We just need to turn the boats back to France even if it means falling out with the French. The people on the boats are economic migrants not asylum seekers. We then need foreign aid to help them in their own countries.

Gran22boys

All these schemes are a load of rubbish. We just need to turn the boats back to France even if it means falling out with the French. The people on the boats are economic migrants not asylum seekers. We then need foreign aid to help them in their own countries.

That’s illegal

It’s not about “falling out with the French”

It’s about International Maritime and Asylum Law.

Maremia

What was that working arrangement we had before BREXIT?
Such a pity we lost that.

Direct that question to Mr Farage?

Well, it was a very EXPENSIVE pilot scheme. 😮

Primrose53

Labour shouldn’t crow too much about the one-outs. Most of them were paid to leave. Some have taken the money, gone home and come back here but that’s another story.

What on earth is a "one out?"

Fallingstar

Yes links please.
The fact is Burnham promising closer ties with the EU in the aftermath of a disasterous Brexit will yield better results when it comes to controlling illegal migration than anything else.

Not going to happen. Just another empty promise.

They couldn't care less about Foreign Aid. They want to live here and get everything they can get.

greyfur16

Primrose53

Labour shouldn’t crow too much about the one-outs. Most of them were paid to leave. Some have taken the money, gone home and come back here but that’s another story.

What on earth is a "one out?"

In case you missed it the thread title is “one in, one out.”

Without crayons that’s the best I can do.😝

Does anybody on this site have any contact with illegal immigrants. I have over the past 20 years.

And also people who have been given leave to remain who have told a pack of lies and used false passports and other documents to stay here and been deported.

Where l live we've had at least at least a dozen people who have been eventually removed by the Housing Association because the original tenant sublets the flat to them.

Only because tenants have threatened to report to the Housing Ombudsmen etc. This has now changed to Register for Social Housing.

It works like this. Someone will come over legally to on a work or student visa and their family will come to visit and forget to go home.
Or just sneak in illegally

They usually work in local take aways for cash in hand. Or pretend to own their own business.Think Vape Shops. Or work in businesses where they business has been struck off re Companies House Records but has a new owner within months

Their visa expires. They give a sob story to the authorities and are granted leave to stay. Then they after being destitute suddenly find the money to buy a property. Not sure how they get around the Electoral Register.

They move out of the flat and sub let it to their friends and relatives who have come into the country legally or illegally.

They also got back to their country of origin for visits for months and even more than a year at a time.

You know the country that they were in huge danger of being shot at when they lived there and were in fear of their lives. And could never return to.

I live in a flat above a ground floor flat that has been sublet to Kurd for nearly a year by an Iraqi who has never really lived there since he moved in over four years ago And is always on holiday in Iraq according to the Kurd.

There also been a number of other people staying there from the Middle East in that time period Always young men.

At one stage they also had the use of a car during their stay.

Neighbours call it the Iraqi AirBnb.

It is against the law to sublet Social Housing property. My Housing Association couldn't care less as long as the rent is paid. Then they can't evict people fast enough even when they are in dire straits.

So think about it if you had been on a Social Housing waiting list for years whilst living in overcrowded, unsuitable conditions. Maybe you feel a tad annoyed to put it mildly about this practise which is wide spread and common place

Not to mention local younger people who are paying eye watering rents for menial private flats. They can't even get a sniff

And the situation l have describe is why hard working Britis decent people can become resentful about politics.

They are feeling as though they are ignored and branded and judged as a bunch of bigots and racists by people who know better and are morally superior.

Going back into Europe will make this situation worse. No matter what fancy pants legislation they introduce. The AMMR didn't do the Spanish enclave in Ceuta much good. Did it ? When 80,000 Moroccans when for a stroll and an afternoon out over border.

The only real fix is to get out of the ECHR once and for all. Will never happen, because of the everlasting outdated concept of Island of Ireland.

Perhaps the French will give us some of our millions back then

ruthiek

Perhaps the French will give us some of our millions back then

Of course they will…..😂😂😂😂

Honestly, I despair at the ignorance shown about the ECHR.

If you are talking about challenges to deportations, most are heard under the UK Human Rights Act in domestic courts.

Since 1980, the ECHR has ruled against the UK only 13 times. 13 times in 46 years.

What exactly is it that you think leaving the ECHR would achieve?

WithNobsOnIt

Does anybody on this site have any contact with illegal immigrants. I have over the past 20 years.

And also people who have been given leave to remain who have told a pack of lies and used false passports and other documents to stay here and been deported.

Where l live we've had at least at least a dozen people who have been eventually removed by the Housing Association because the original tenant sublets the flat to them.

Only because tenants have threatened to report to the Housing Ombudsmen etc. This has now changed to Register for Social Housing.

It works like this. Someone will come over legally to on a work or student visa and their family will come to visit and forget to go home.
Or just sneak in illegally

They usually work in local take aways for cash in hand. Or pretend to own their own business.Think Vape Shops. Or work in businesses where they business has been struck off re Companies House Records but has a new owner within months

Their visa expires. They give a sob story to the authorities and are granted leave to stay. Then they after being destitute suddenly find the money to buy a property. Not sure how they get around the Electoral Register.

They move out of the flat and sub let it to their friends and relatives who have come into the country legally or illegally.

They also got back to their country of origin for visits for months and even more than a year at a time.

You know the country that they were in huge danger of being shot at when they lived there and were in fear of their lives. And could never return to.

I live in a flat above a ground floor flat that has been sublet to Kurd for nearly a year by an Iraqi who has never really lived there since he moved in over four years ago And is always on holiday in Iraq according to the Kurd.

There also been a number of other people staying there from the Middle East in that time period Always young men.

At one stage they also had the use of a car during their stay.

Neighbours call it the Iraqi AirBnb.

It is against the law to sublet Social Housing property. My Housing Association couldn't care less as long as the rent is paid. Then they can't evict people fast enough even when they are in dire straits.

So think about it if you had been on a Social Housing waiting list for years whilst living in overcrowded, unsuitable conditions. Maybe you feel a tad annoyed to put it mildly about this practise which is wide spread and common place

Not to mention local younger people who are paying eye watering rents for menial private flats. They can't even get a sniff

And the situation l have describe is why hard working Britis decent people can become resentful about politics.

They are feeling as though they are ignored and branded and judged as a bunch of bigots and racists by people who know better and are morally superior.

Going back into Europe will make this situation worse. No matter what fancy pants legislation they introduce. The AMMR didn't do the Spanish enclave in Ceuta much good. Did it ? When 80,000 Moroccans when for a stroll and an afternoon out over border.

The only real fix is to get out of the ECHR once and for all. Will never happen, because of the everlasting outdated concept of Island of Ireland.

The government obviously are colluding and want this situation to continue. Why ?

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2048

Not as expensive as Farage's BREXIT.

The one in, one out scheme is ending. Pretty sure that’s what I heard when I was dropping off to sleep last night.

It’s only cost £168 million!

And more came in than went out. A win all round for France. What fools they must think we are.

Primrose53

greyfur16

Primrose53

Labour shouldn’t crow too much about the one-outs. Most of them were paid to leave. Some have taken the money, gone home and come back here but that’s another story.

What on earth is a "one out?"

In case you missed it the thread title is “one in, one out.”

Without crayons that’s the best I can do.😝

Thanks so much. I've been spending far too much time on the site. Comments like this help me find other activities.

LemonJam

L government is spending way less than Conservative government on accommodation for AS whilst their claims are being processed and had reduced the backlog of claims it inherited at last gE significantly.

Plus it has significantly reduced the time period it takes to process the claims. Cant deny that progress.

There you go, spoiling things with facts 😁

Regardless of the costs I think that putting these undocumented men in HMOs next to.families and old.people and making their lives unbearable is worse than the hotels. One elderly lady had lived in her house for 50.years but now 5 men have been put next to her causing all sorts of trouble and the government doesn't care it seems us British are 2nd class citizens in our own country with no rights it's wrong on all counts.

Peacelilydilly- reducing costs may not matter to you but does to many others.

There were many protests against asylum seekers being put in hotels and L party pledged to end hotel use.

I disagree that British citizens are second class citizens and don't have rights.

France has walked away scot free. I don't think they spent one euro on the scheme. I get that, because in France it's only a problem in the Calais area. In the UK it's a problem that has permeated the country. We had far more to lose, and so it is.

A concern would be that this sets a precedent for France always calling the tune. Even yesterday, speaking of UK closer ties with the EU, Macron made it clear that we can't decide to take what suits us and leave the rest. France holds the cards now.