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The UK’s “one in, one out” migrant deal with France is on the brink of collapse, with a senior French immigration official claiming: “It’s over.”

(86 Posts)
FriedGreenTomatoes2 Wed 30-Sept-26 09:15:43

Well what’s surprise. Not.
And after all that trumpeting from Starmer at the time.

LemonJam Thu 01-Oct-26 10:56:09

When the UK requests support from France to stop in asylum seekers coming to UK to claim asylum- no basis to expect France to fund or financially contribute to any costs UK proposals involve.

As UK is no longer in EU I agree France does hold the cards in such negotiations and can say yes or no.

sundowngirl Thu 01-Oct-26 11:50:41

Maremia

What was that working arrangement we had before BREXIT?
Such a pity we lost that.

If you mean the Dublin Agreement - it was not a 'working' arrangement as the UK took back more immigrants than it sent back. So it is no great loss

sundowngirl Thu 01-Oct-26 12:06:24

Withnobson - sub letting is not just a problem for housing associations it happens all the time with council housing.

According to AI - Illegal subletting is a massive, multi-billion-pound problem for UK local councils, heavily straining both public finances and the social housing system.

The government estimates that each individual instance of illegal subletting costs the taxpayer an average of £78,300.

But they are too stretched to do anything about it.

Maremia Thu 01-Oct-26 12:11:24

When you think of the 'cards' that the UK held, won by Thatcher, that Farage and Johnson threw away, and for what?

LemonJam Thu 01-Oct-26 12:12:38

If you mean the Dublin Regulation sundowngirl- it was a fast track legal authority to return asylum seekers to the first safe EU country they entered when prior to Brexit.

UK accepted family reunion asylum seekers then because of the family aspect of the regulation that allowed asylum seekers/refugees a safe, dedicated, legal visa route to join families already proven to be settled in the UK. Thats is Visa, controlled route across UK border.

Loosing the Dublin Regulation post Brexit gave rise to unauthorised small boat asylum seeker arrivals the UK then houses whilst screening and asylum seeker processing takes place.

You think the Dublin Regulation is no great loss so infer you prefer the introduction and rise of unauthorised small arrivals- that resulted in tis loss. Others may disagree.

Maremia Thu 01-Oct-26 12:17:29

When we 'took back control' with BREXIT, look how much useful control we lost, and now we have the Farage Flotillas that vex so many.

Maremia Thu 01-Oct-26 12:18:58

Ignore the Thread Police greyfur.
No-one is obliged to respond to every post.

sundowngirl Thu 01-Oct-26 12:45:13

"You think the Dublin Regulation is no great loss so infer you prefer the introduction and rise of unauthorised small arrivals- that resulted in tis loss. Others may disagree."

Absolute rubbish of course I want to stop the small boats (more than many on here it would seem) - The Dublin Regulation didn't work in our favour before and there would be no certainty it would have made any difference to the small boats now - just like the failed one in, one out scheme

LemonJam Thu 01-Oct-26 12:53:14

You posted the Dublin agreement was no great loss sundowngirl. You also now say it didn't work in our favour before and no certainty it has made any difference to small boats.

As we had no small boat arrivals when the Dublin regulation was in place- its loss speaks for itself!

The 'one in one out was a time limited pilot scheme not a legal regulation like the Dublin agreement which provided a controlled safe, dedicated, legal route to join families already proven to be settled in the UK. As a result of Dublin Regulation loss unauthorised small boat arrivals began as the UK no longer has a visa route for ASs. They must be on UK soil first to make their claim.

Cossy Thu 01-Oct-26 13:04:41

sundowngirl

"You think the Dublin Regulation is no great loss so infer you prefer the introduction and rise of unauthorised small arrivals- that resulted in tis loss. Others may disagree."

Absolute rubbish of course I want to stop the small boats (more than many on here it would seem) - The Dublin Regulation didn't work in our favour before and there would be no certainty it would have made any difference to the small boats now - just like the failed one in, one out scheme

Almost -everyone on here wants the small boat arrivals to stop entirely.

Possibly for different reasons to each other.