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French school children on strike

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GrannyGravy13 Thu 01-Oct-26 19:05:20

I have just seen a report from BBC online that French students are striking and protesting in several places across France.

They are complaining about lack of teachers, conditions in school etc. Some have started fires outside school buildings.

Seems education is a victim of circumstances elsewhere not just UK

petra Sun 18-Oct-26 20:31:10

MartavTaurus

The trouble is that it isn't a cohesive French society though. The strict focus on secular compliance in education actually masks its very failures. The poorest people live in the slummiest areas, they attend the worst schools, they are given the most inexperienced teachers. There is no way out.

A lot in common with this country, then.

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Primrose53 Sun 18-Oct-26 20:58:05

Macron tonight “looking at these images, we have all asked ourselves how French people could do this to France.”

Somebody tell him they’re not French.

MT62 Sun 18-Oct-26 21:17:40

Light looting! like a plague of locusts have landed, all the shops have been stripped bare.
Those beautiful, old buildings destroyed.
Watching the clean up process earlier. I turned it off as it’s
quite depressing 😞

MT62 Sun 18-Oct-26 21:20:00

Primrose53

Macron tonight “looking at these images, we have all asked ourselves how French people could do this to France.”

Somebody tell him they’re not French.

Nope, not all. His head is firmly buried in the sand 😞

greyfur16 Sun 18-Oct-26 21:20:51

Primrose53

Macron tonight “looking at these images, we have all asked ourselves how French people could do this to France.”

Somebody tell him they’re not French.

Unbelievable really. How ignorant.

Casdon Sun 18-Oct-26 21:21:40

It reveals where people get their news from, that’s for sure.

MT62 Sun 18-Oct-26 21:24:50

Casdon

It reveals where people get their news from, that’s for sure.

Oh & where is that Casdon? Your sources don’t disclose the whole truth do they?

MT62 Sun 18-Oct-26 21:25:31

Mine came from an Australian news outlet

greyfur16 Sun 18-Oct-26 21:27:41

You are able to grasp the fact that people who aren't white can be French? Yes?

Jaxjacky Sun 18-Oct-26 21:40:12

Obviously not greyfur too hard maybe,

MaizieD Sun 18-Oct-26 21:40:19

greyfur16

You are able to grasp the fact that people who aren't white can be French? Yes?

Like people who are black, brown and any other colour can be English, or Scottish etc?

MartavTaurus Sun 18-Oct-26 21:48:41

I'm sure Macron said this because French police have presumably identified the majority of those arrested as French nationals. They may well be second or third generation citizens, but they are legally French. Won't they have had to show their identity cards?

Interesting that even Marine Le Pen is not nentioning immigration as the cause.

Casdon Sun 18-Oct-26 21:51:03

MT62

Casdon

It reveals where people get their news from, that’s for sure.

Oh & where is that Casdon? Your sources don’t disclose the whole truth do they?

By which equation, neither do yours. There is no whole truth, as I attempted to point out earlier. We will know from the details that will no doubt be released when people appear in court. Until then, jumping to conclusions that non French people were major instigators is biased crap, not to put too fine a point on it.

nanna8 Sun 18-Oct-26 23:38:08

When we were in our twenties and early thirties many of us had just bought a house and a lot of time and energy went into that and ‘homemaking’. That door is closed to many young ones now - no wonder they riot, what sort of a life lies ahead for them ? Permanent renting ? Poverty?

MaizieD Mon 19-Oct-26 00:14:30

I agree with what you are saying, nanna8. It is the way their economy is run which is at the root of France’s current problems.

Though as the UK runs ours in much the same way and many of our social problems are similar there is a fair chance that the UK may go the same way as an ever greater number of our citizens are treated as cash cows for the wealthy.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Mon 19-Oct-26 07:37:40

Apparently this chaos is now spreading to Italy. It’s like a tsunami effect now and more than likely facilitated by social media I bet. Probably won’t be long before we see it over here. We have similar problems in so many ways.

petra Mon 19-Oct-26 07:49:26

greyfur16

You are able to grasp the fact that people who aren't white can be French? Yes?

I think that’s a step too far, greyfur 😂

MartavTaurus Mon 19-Oct-26 08:07:20

nanna8

When we were in our twenties and early thirties many of us had just bought a house and a lot of time and energy went into that and ‘homemaking’. That door is closed to many young ones now - no wonder they riot, what sort of a life lies ahead for them ? Permanent renting ? Poverty?

Yes to an extent.
Maybe because when we were that age we understood what the previous generation had gone through with the war, and what sacrifices they had made for our futures. Every nation had suffered. So we all committed ourselves to improving our lot, with successful results.

Now, two generations down the line, this has all gone to pot and attitudes themselves have degenerated, haven't they? I guess it's a lack of general respect, and a lack of unity - despite being a so-called United Europe.

I don't have any answers, I'm just dismayed and mentally exhausted by it all. The problem is, I don't see who or what can sort it out. Macron says he will make those responsible pay. But how or what with?

There needs to be either some kind of deterrent, or more tangible support available, or both.

Hope springs eternal, but radical government action is somehow needed, even if money is short.

nanna8 Mon 19-Oct-26 08:22:32

There was also probably ( not sure here ) more patriotism because of the lingering affects of the war. Until the mid sixties we felt very proud to be British and proud of the achievements in the past . Then you got a whole lot of comedians and news people laughing at that and subtly undermining it. Mostly Oxbridge educated who had lived a very privileged life and didn’t see the big picture and did care. They made money out of undermining the admittedly rather rigid status quo.

Primrose53 Mon 19-Oct-26 08:45:15

greyfur16

You are able to grasp the fact that people who aren't white can be French? Yes?

I never mentioned colour!

MaizieD Mon 19-Oct-26 09:09:20

Primrose53

greyfur16

You are able to grasp the fact that people who aren't white can be French? Yes?

I never mentioned colour!

From your earlier post:
Macron tonight “looking at these images, we have all asked ourselves how French people could do this to France.”

Somebody tell him they’re not French.

What was it, then, that made you think that these people are not French?

MT62 Mon 19-Oct-26 09:14:02

No primrose it wasn’t you it was me.

MT62 Mon 19-Oct-26 09:25:27

& I am not apologising, or taking my post down because I described a black person being interviewed as black, he was & that’s a true fact!
I didn’t say they instigated the trouble, only the fact they want to cause carnage, as that is what he suggested in his interview.

MaizieD Mon 19-Oct-26 09:31:38

MT62

No primrose it wasn’t you it was me.

This doesn’t absolve Primrose.

I think we’d still like to know how she knew that ‘they’re not French’

Mamie Mon 19-Oct-26 09:51:23

Many of the people living in the former French territories were given full French citizenship. You also have the overseas départements such as Martinique and Réunion with French citizenship.
You really can't tell a French person by the colour of their skin!