French school children on strike

This doesn’t absolve Primrose.
I think we’d still like to know how she knew that ‘they’re not French’

I sometimes wonder who some of you think you are, behaving as self-appointed spokesman for the readers of Gransnet, as in 'we would like to know'.
I am perfectly able to form my own opinion.

eazybee

^This doesn’t absolve Primrose.^
I think we’d still like to know how she knew that ‘they’re not French’

I sometimes wonder who some of you think you are, behaving as self-appointed spokesman for the readers of Gransnet, as in 'we would like to know'.
I am perfectly able to form my own opinion.

So, what is your opinion on how Primrose managed to identify the 'not French' people she was talking about?

I apologise for saying 'we'. It should have been 'some posters', because it obviously isn't all posters.

easybee
I am constantly saying no we havnt all and all of us have etc
Don’t lump me in those remarks.

I know things are tough for a lot of folk in France but now I read that there are soooo many with poor eyesite 😥

Millions of people believe this fake photo before it was taken down.
I wonder if there are any on this site 😉

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I don’t know where the ultra left radical groups described by the French PM are coming from, but they are unlikely to be led by migrants, who don’t fall into that category in any country as far as I’m aware. My money is on them being homegrown French nationals, with some from other political and social groups seeking to cause disruption joining in.

Nanna totally agree, thanks BBC. Also the beginning of the F word freely broadcasted,now it's the C word.

eazybee

^This doesn’t absolve Primrose.^
I think we’d still like to know how she knew that ‘they’re not French’

I sometimes wonder who some of you think you are, behaving as self-appointed spokesman for the readers of Gransnet, as in 'we would like to know'.
I am perfectly able to form my own opinion.

eazybee it’s not policing, it’s perfectly legitimate to ask where people who make contentious statements get the information they post from. If I did, I’d expect to be asked, to provide the source of my comment, wouldn’t you?

Probably a feeling that just like the scum over here desecrating the cenotaph are probably not English otherwise you would think they would respect our war dead and have some history of their families serving in the armed forces and be proud of the monument. Primrose probably just had a feeling that they were not French because of the way they were behaving. Mass immigration over in France with lots of people with no allegiance to the country and its history.

I once asked a muslim celebrity, on another forum, would she let her sons fight for the Uk, and she said no.
She couldnt stop them, but no.

Casdon

I don’t know where the ultra left radical groups described by the French PM are coming from, but they are unlikely to be led by migrants, who don’t fall into that category in any country as far as I’m aware. My money is on them being homegrown French nationals, with some from other political and social groups seeking to cause disruption joining in.

That’s what I think, only it’s turned into a free for all now.
As for Primrose, I think she has more pressing things going on at the moment.

fancythat

I once asked a muslim celebrity, on another forum, would she let her sons fight for the Uk, and she said no.
She couldnt stop them, but no.

This is very ignorant of the part that people from Asia and other people from the British Empire fought in both WW1 and WW2. they have been erased from history.

And you take the word of just one women to make an argument: yet in the armed forces and in for example the police, there is actually a great deal of racism in both the police or the armed forces that puts off Muslim men and women from taking part.

It still goes on. If we are serious about the whole of the population joining these essential services then we first have to deal with racism and sexism.

To move on: there is a very interesting short video on how its not mainly immigrants nor the "ultra left" leading the current roubles not just in France, but in many otters countries, like Spain, like India, like some other European countries, Most people taking part - and the leaders - *are GenZ, who face the inability to get jobs, a decent education, houses whether rented or bought,

The same things, unless the bank of mum and dad can shell out, we face in the UK. A rise in Mental Health troubles, the frustration and hopelessness compared with what they perceive past generations had. and they are often right:

OTOH, expectations are very high: one points out the struggle to get that first house, how long it was before we got a car, the difficulties women faced getting equal opportunities and so on. Every day on TV, and "influencers" on SM, the adverts paint a glossy list of expectations past generations never have.

Tricky one, as the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.

(the short video is on the BBC I player range of "shorts" - there isnt a direct web address for me to give, just took at the opening page for the video shorts and flick through - very thought provoking.)

I worry that this sort of mindless violence could spread to Lon don. Some of these protestors seem hell bent on destroying people's businesses because they represent capitalism, and some because they can loot the shops of products like watches and jewellery to sell on. No doubt some of the extreme left and criminal elements over here are watching France with interest.

Hmm. French protest has always been like that.

The other countries mentioned in the survey of GenZ have not had the same levels of violence. I really think, its not the ultra left: that is what the French government are telling up, and the now vocal far right. that suits their narrative: responsibility for that, that has gone wrong, is done to a series of governments.

I do think that its partly a reaction to the rise of the Far right, but that the protests are from a very broad group of people.

Brits are just are not the same, although I find the rise of the black masked far right protesters and their tactics rather scary.

It is true that this uprising is neither totally Far Left, nor Far Right. There are many layers involved, and I know for a fact that even farmers in Brittany have joined in. They all join up together.
I think it is more complicated and deep rooted than trying to single out different factions because it is an overall malaise which no French government could have entirely prevented.

I cant get the picture of the far-left mayor out of my head.

The AI photo of the elderly couple in their underwear is appalling, why make the situation worse or give anarchists ideas. What is really worrying, French political parties appear to have lost the middle ground. Macron has an unfortunate, detached, lofty air about him. If either of the two extremes form the next government these running battles have the potential to get so much worse, France could become ungovernable.

The damage is done by criminals deliberately trying co cause chaos and loss of control so they can loot businesses. The police are trying to keep order and over 1000 have been injured, whatever government is in power violence has to be controlled.

The problems in France are no different to the UK ultimately the result will be authoritarian control, gatherings and demonstrations will not be allowed, the alternative is mob rule

You’re right David49. I saw that Vinted have moved very quickly to stop looted goods being sold on their site. I hope they share that intelligence with the police so they catch the opportunist criminals trying to make profit from the disorder.