French school children on strike

Personally I dislike the word students for any pupils under 18 years, but it's a common term now.

How very civilised they seem, entitled bar stewards same as here what a world

There are images of a fireman on fire, reports of teachers being doused in petrol, etc.

JenniRen

Perhaps some UK schoolchildren should protest more about the shocking state of the schools they have to inhabit daily, they are breathing in mould spores and are in danger from crumbling buildings.

And perhaps some UK teachers should demonstrate and go on strike about the shocking behaviour and demanding entitlement of the children and their parents they have too put up with

Liberté, Égalité, Fraternité",

That's the French for you. Not a lot of Entente Cordiale at the mo.

Do you think they will make huge bonfires and burn down the Elysees Palace and the Arc de Triomphe?
And maybe the Louvre .

Quasimodo would have been proud of them.

Vive la France!!

🇨🇵🔥💣

University students are never happy. They now have their lunch for
1 euro which was for poorer students but now all, of course surprise, surprise, are queuing up for it.

The BBC are reporting that the
‘Students say school hours are too long, classrooms too hot and too many members of staff are off work. ‘
The Guardian reports
‘School is a right, not a privilege,” read a cardboard sign as Sophia listed the grievances of teenagers across France: a lack of state investment in education, overcrowded classes of up to 40 children in crumbling buildings, poor teacher pay, staff absences and an unequal system in which social background determined success. ‘
And later on it states, ‘ Many school students protesting have accused the state of disengaging from secondary education, describing difficult conditions in classrooms with ceilings partially collapsing during class, leaks, cockroaches and buildings in disrepair. Others have spoken of excessively long school days and a lack of teaching staff.‘
No mention of migrant numbers was made.

Have I gone through the looking glass. There are photos of a fireman on fire, female teachers being attacked, bbc reporting 60 teachers injured.

We don’t know what a riot is here in the UK! A man throws a small plastic bottle and swears at Police and he’s swiftly arrested and charged and will likely get prison time even tho many prisoners are being let out very early as the same prisons are said to be full.🙄
In France off duty police are being beaten up, a uniformed woman officer being chased down, a woman trying to mediate had an aerosol sprayed in her eyes.300 police injured.
That’s a riot.

Just look at Nothern Ireland 3 months ago Oreo, I beg to differ.

Was on an exchange in 1971 as a sixth former. A Politics lesson and a punch up. I was so impressed they cared enough!
Here apathy was rife and now it’s worse.
We’re welcoming the black shirts and locking up people like my friend who takes action for the people who need it- in Palestine! Heroes all.

Setting schools on fire, buses & fire engines are on fire, even dousing people in petrol.
Police are being attacked, even some lump trying to simulate sex with the Virgin Mary- absolutely disgusting & depressing.
I’ll never, ever go to France again.
It’s like WWZ

Frogoet

Was on an exchange in 1971 as a sixth former. A Politics lesson and a punch up. I was so impressed they cared enough!
Here apathy was rife and now it’s worse.
We’re welcoming the black shirts and locking up people like my friend who takes action for the people who need it- in Palestine! Heroes all.

Oh yeah, big heroes ( not)

Jaxjacky

Just look at Nothern Ireland 3 months ago Oreo, I beg to differ.

It was nowhere hear as bad as this riot in France!

Oreo

We don’t know what a riot is here in the UK! A man throws a small plastic bottle and swears at Police and he’s swiftly arrested and charged and will likely get prison time even tho many prisoners are being let out very early as the same prisons are said to be full.🙄
In France off duty police are being beaten up, a uniformed woman officer being chased down, a woman trying to mediate had an aerosol sprayed in her eyes.300 police injured.
That’s a riot.

I saw that police woman slapped to the floor. Absolutely disgusting.

I agree Oreo your post at 19:43, the way I read your comments it was as though you thought it was a competition, my apologies if I misinterpreted that.

Nandalot

The BBC are reporting that the
‘Students say school hours are too long, classrooms too hot and too many members of staff are off work. ‘
The Guardian reports
‘School is a right, not a privilege,” read a cardboard sign as Sophia listed the grievances of teenagers across France: a lack of state investment in education, overcrowded classes of up to 40 children in crumbling buildings, poor teacher pay, staff absences and an unequal system in which social background determined success. ‘
And later on it states, ‘ Many school students protesting have accused the state of disengaging from secondary education, describing difficult conditions in classrooms with ceilings partially collapsing during class, leaks, cockroaches and buildings in disrepair. Others have spoken of excessively long school days and a lack of teaching staff.‘
No mention of migrant numbers was made.

The buildings will be in disrepair, silly sods have burned them down 😳

I did a double take when I read French schoolchildren as my 10 year old grandson is currently at primary school.in Paris.
He was happy to have a day off on Tuesday when his class teacher or Maîtresse was en grève, but from what I see it is the older college or lycee students rather than the school children who are causing the trouble.

Protesting about injustice is one thing but this has gone too far with all the violence now.

Yes, it is older students and some who are not even pupils at the lycées who are causing the real trouble.

I think because they are still only teenagers they don't think as individuals, but act en masse. They feed off each others' negative energy like a mob because that way they win approval from their peers. To them, nothing looks more cool than standing up to authority figures and they become empowered by taking risks.
I agree it's not a competition, but in my opinion, the heavy-handed, somewhat aggressive tactics used by the French police often serve to incite the young people further. I don't blame the pupils for feeling provoked when batons, tear gas and water canons are used on them, though I repeat that I think the youth violence in this instance is becoming more and more out of control.

Primrose53

It’s all gone quiet now but originally students were saying they were fed up with overcrowded classes due to the large number of immigrant kids in French schools.

Racism is rearing across Europe. Hitler blamed immigrants for global recession - let us not go down that route!

I fail to see how setting fire to ones school and books is going to help matters.

MawsRosie The students are from Lycee or 16+. The pupils from these schools are not burning their schools, there are other people coming in from other areas.

The schools in my area all had 30+ pupils and back before covid there were no immigrants as such. In the private schools that are under the government contract, the parents are told, in my area, that if they are not happy with the situation they can go else where. They don’t. The teachers in these schools rarely go on strike. But the pay may not be so good nor their pensions as the state schools.

It is the far right/left ministers that are trying to cause conflict.

There is unrest also because everyone is worried about the employment situation.

My friend’s daughter is taking a masters..Two girls, who have already a masters, have joined the class in the last two weeks to do a second one. Education is free in universities, and lunches cost 1 euro, they couldn’t find work.

Everyone who passes the Bac has the right to go to university.

mokryna

MawsRosie The students are from Lycee or 16+. The pupils from these schools are not burning their schools, there are other people coming in from other areas.

I think this was what I was getting at- to refer to them as children is misleading.

I think they're called enfants when speaking in the context of the parents being responsible for their behaviour. They are, of course, minors.