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French school children on strike

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GrannyGravy13 Thu 01-Oct-26 19:05:20

I have just seen a report from BBC online that French students are striking and protesting in several places across France.

They are complaining about lack of teachers, conditions in school etc. Some have started fires outside school buildings.

Seems education is a victim of circumstances elsewhere not just UK

Mollygo Tue 06-Oct-26 18:13:43

Interesting to listen to the pupils giving their opinions about what is wrong with the education system over there - lack of teachers, poor state of buildings etc.
Over here we’re busy worrying about lack of potty training.

Jaxjacky Tue 06-Oct-26 18:55:20

In Françe your child cannot attend school if not trained Mollygo same with vaccinations. End of.

MT62 Tue 06-Oct-26 20:59:26

MawsRosie

Well that’s your opinion and you’re welcome to it.
But out of interest, how many UK cities have you visited recently?
Seen the tent village in Park Lane?
The rough sleepers at all the major railway stations or on the underground?
You’ve got to be realistic, there’s good and bad everywhere and the current protests -however violent- hardly warrant “I’ll never, ever go to France again” !

I think Paris today is much worse than anything you will have witnessed in the uk MR
I think these riots are more than crap schools with no bog roll, tbh.

MawsRosie Tue 06-Oct-26 21:12:37

I think Paris today is much worse than anything you will have witnessed in the uk MR
I think these riots are more than crap schools with no bog roll, tbh
I am regularly in both cities with daughters and their families in both so you may think what you like.
(Nobody ever seriously thought bog rolls were at issue did they?)

Wyllow3 Tue 06-Oct-26 21:18:15

Mmm FGT I think maybe you are right about there being a difference between chat and N and P. I dont think it's a matter of bears with little or big brains, but maybe a different sort of interest? A different angle?

Talking to friends I am just the same. I know them personally, we "know where each other is at" politically, one often throws snippets of this or that in......

Of course N and P -especially after a long thread - can get like that, but there is a strong interest in trying to establish facts as far as possible, what's verifiable, what is rapidly changing and needs to be followed and so on.

Its simply a different kind of what is satisfying or meaningful to each one of us,

but there is nowhere except N and P for producing evidence and conclusions, evidence for speculating, and moving forward with it and then, if one disagrees, finding evidence to support the counter argument, going actually a-hunting for it.

which amazingly, can be satisfying......☺️

Casdon Tue 06-Oct-26 21:34:12

MT62

MawsRosie

Well that’s your opinion and you’re welcome to it.
But out of interest, how many UK cities have you visited recently?
Seen the tent village in Park Lane?
The rough sleepers at all the major railway stations or on the underground?
You’ve got to be realistic, there’s good and bad everywhere and the current protests -however violent- hardly warrant “I’ll never, ever go to France again” !

I think Paris today is much worse than anything you will have witnessed in the uk MR
I think these riots are more than crap schools with no bog roll, tbh.

I don’t, I think it’s their way in France, they like protesting about things, it’s not a sign of anything more significant being wrong there than happens in the UK.

TerriBull Wed 07-Oct-26 14:31:22

There's rather a funny video over on ahem the DM However, it did raise a smile a couple of mothers dragging their errant offspring home for a dressing down one, really giving her boy a good old whack on the back, which he probably can't feel as he's rather protected by his sac a dos. That mum means business though, she's gonna give him a right old clip around the ear when she gets him home shock

David49 Thu 08-Oct-26 05:54:34

Never go to France again is just like never go to US again because of Trump, many dont come to the UK because of perceived terrorist risk.

Just stay away from demonstrations and dont discuss politics most places are fine, personally I like France but Paris is not my favorite place so I stay away.

MT62 Thu 08-Oct-26 09:19:10

MawsRosie

^I think Paris today is much worse than anything you will have witnessed in the uk MR^
I think these riots are more than crap schools with no bog roll, tbh
I am regularly in both cities with daughters and their families in both so you may think what you like.
(Nobody ever seriously thought bog rolls were at issue did they?)

It was mentioned in an interview a young girl gave- just being sarcastic!

GrannyGravy13 Thu 08-Oct-26 09:28:02

David49

Never go to France again is just like never go to US again because of Trump, many dont come to the UK because of perceived terrorist risk.

Just stay away from demonstrations and dont discuss politics most places are fine, personally I like France but Paris is not my favorite place so I stay away.

My DH was and is adamant that he will not set foot on USA soil whilst President Trump is in situ, and he hasn’t.

Which is a shame as I would have liked to accompanied one of our AC and family to Disney this year 😿

MT62 Thu 08-Oct-26 09:28:02

LemonJam

We all have a political bias- some way more than others! Clearly you prefer also to primarily rely on opinion based social media, small videos and captured pics fr your news source. You then share blatant, inaccurate, conspiracy based non factual theories.

Each to their own. I'm quite happy to leave you to your preference of having robust discussion of your factually inaccurate conspiracy theories also. That way madness lies.

A real danger to political discourse in the UK and abroad.

Where do you get all info from then when you are copying & pasting LemonJam?
you can’t unsee video footage on the news what the camera captures

mokryna Thu 08-Oct-26 09:41:47

Jaxjacky

In Françe your child cannot attend school if not trained Mollygo same with vaccinations. End of.

Since Macron lowered the compulsory school starting from 6 to 3 in 2019, no public maternelle can refuse a child in nappies.

LemonJam Thu 08-Oct-26 10:47:56

I have not posted since 6/10/26 MT62. My post you quoted has no copying and and no pasting.

Mollygo Fri 09-Oct-26 13:43:08

mokryna

Since Macron lowered the compulsory school starting from 6 to 3 in 2019, no public maternelle can refuse a child in nappies.

That doesn’t answer the question about whether they accept children age 4-5 (3-6 in Maternelle) who are not potty trained, as it becomes increasingly common for 4-5 year olds in the UK.
In addition, most maternelle have a full time qualified ATSEM to help with hygiene etc in maternelle classes with 3year olds.

mokryna Fri 09-Oct-26 14:13:52

Yes, the state schools have to accept children from the age of 3, it is compulsory. That would include older children. There is no law requiring them to be clean in state schools.
However, if they are 2 they could be a difference. These classes are free.
Macron wants all children to be ready for learning at 6, in language and customs.

Mollygo Fri 09-Oct-26 14:17:37

Thanks. I’m getting in touch with my teacher friends in Montpellier to ask if they have any 4-6 year olds who are not potty trained and what they do about them.

Jaxjacky Fri 09-Oct-26 14:25:36

Apologies Mokryna I didn’t realise the entry age was 3 now.

mokryna Fri 09-Oct-26 14:53:45

Did you know that the UK government this last year are trying to stop the pamper’s indoctrination of, wait till the toddler wants to be clean to, start as soon as your child can sit, habit forming before they can say no.

Sarnia Fri 09-Oct-26 15:25:09

Mollygo

Thanks. I’m getting in touch with my teacher friends in Montpellier to ask if they have any 4-6 year olds who are not potty trained and what they do about them.

Refuse school entry for any child not toilet trained. That should make the parents put their phones down and start parenting.

MartavTaurus Fri 09-Oct-26 15:27:15

We have relatives in Brussels, and I think they said that children there have to start school at 2 and a half, and are supposed to be potty trained. They say there, that if the child can successfully go up stairs, it proves they have developed the necessary gross motor skills, balance, and control over their pelvic floor muscles and back passage. Apparently, these are the exact same muscles required to voluntarily hold and release a poo, so I was told!

mokryna Fri 09-Oct-26 16:21:53

Good saves landfill and money.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Sat 17-Oct-26 15:26:11

The situation in Paris is escalating.

First it was about schools, and now it's about the cost of living. Is it possible it's not either? We are so used to being gaslighted by governments and media that it leaves a vacuum for other theories to fill.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Sat 17-Oct-26 15:33:03

Disgraceful two-tier reporting is happening. Do the powers that be think we don’t have eyes?

MartavTaurus Sat 17-Oct-26 15:53:25

Yes, today's protests were not planned ahead, but are riding on the back of the school riots. Of course, the intention is to capitalize on the resentment displayed by the pupils last month, and once the gilets jaunes join in, it gets even bigger and the government might be forced to listen.
My understanding is that French people don't want promises of this, that or the other for the future. They want action now.

MT62 Sat 17-Oct-26 16:23:47

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Disgraceful two-tier reporting is happening. Do the powers that be think we don’t have eyes?

It’s utterly disgusting, shocking & depressing what’s going on in these major cities.
All those beautiful buildings up in smoke. Who is going to pick up the tab?
& yes its like an apocalypse.
I feel so sorry for the local French residents of these cities.