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It really gets up my goat!

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Anne58 Thu 19-Sept-13 19:27:31

And other mis-quoted sayings!

I worked with someone who would say "Well, of course, it's catch 2" NO IT IS'NT, IT's CATCH 22!

Also "The proof is in the pudding" Actually, it's "the proof of the pudding is in the eating"

Then there was the chap who would refer to young "whippet snappers" (Perhaps I should have reported him to the RSPCA?) and another who once remarked that some such action resulted in "a human cry" (Took a minute or so to realise he meant "a hue and cry"

Please share yours, unless of course it's just me......

nightowl Sun 22-Sept-13 16:57:39

I've just remembered they also said 'mester' as in 'mester smith' or 'take it to the 'mester' meaning 'man'. Marster was a quite different use of the word as in 'the school marster' or to 'marster' something.

confused

janeainsworth Sun 22-Sept-13 16:56:01

con-*trov*ersy
day-ity
ne-few
meye-graine
ishoo
ett

nightowl Sun 22-Sept-13 16:51:24

No kitty that was a strange anomaly around Sheffield/ Rotherham/ Barnsley I believe. It sounds really odd to me now but I never heard anything else when I was a child.

nightowl Sun 22-Sept-13 16:49:46

con- trov -er-sy
Day-ity
Nefew
Meye-grain
Ishoo
Ait (but sometimes the 'ett' comes back blush)

kittylester Sun 22-Sept-13 16:47:58

We said 'ahmund' in Derbyshire when I was growing up nightowl and scon to rhyme with one. But, I've mentioned before, my mother is Mrs Bucket!

Strangely though, we didn't say marster, plarster or farster. confused

Mamie Sun 22-Sept-13 16:44:55

CON-trov-er-sy
DAY-it-y
NEV-u
MEE-grain(unless speaking French in which case me-GRAINE)
Ishoo
8

nightowl Sun 22-Sept-13 16:44:45

In the west riding when I was growing up it was always ahmund. Always scone to rhyme with cone. Interestingly everyone also said plarster and marster but never farster because that would have been posh. When I spoke about a Marstercard not that many years ago I was laughed at by my OH who is from the welsh borders. In the East Midlands it would always be master with a short a sound. I think my vowels are all over the place now but I'm definitely not posh.

annodomini Sun 22-Sept-13 16:43:23

Controversy - stress on first syllable
Deity - dee-ity
Nephew - nefew
Migraine - meegraine
Issue - ishyoo
Ate - ait (my Leicestershire granny always said 'et' but we didn't copy her.

Sook Sun 22-Sept-13 16:42:51

Galen grin love it, just going down the garden to tell DH grin

MiceElf Sun 22-Sept-13 16:33:20

Indeed. Let's do a staw poll. How to you pronounce the following:

Controversy
Deity
Nephew
Migraine
Issue
Ate

These were words which participants in a UCL study were aked to pronounce. Interestingly, the variations were far more age related than geographical or educational background related.

Sook Sun 22-Sept-13 16:32:04

I am from The Wirral (was Cheshire) and scone always rhymed with 'con' still does as far as I am concerned. Forty miles further on (still Cheshire) and scone rhymes with cone. confused

janeainsworth Sun 22-Sept-13 16:24:49

Another a-l-mond eater here.
I think that pronunciation was universal across the north-west - I certainly never heard anyone say armond when I was growing up.
I don't think it's a question of correct or incorrect - just an alternative.

Mamie Sun 22-Sept-13 14:24:03

A lot of expats on French forums refer to the Maire or the Mairie as Marie. I especially liked a reference to a "small-town Marie".
Not someone to cross. hmm
I hate nuc-u-lar.

Aka Sun 22-Sept-13 13:58:57

Does scone rhyme with 'cone' or 'con'?
No, I shan’t nail my colours to the mast on this one. It’s too controversial an issue confused

Aka Sun 22-Sept-13 13:51:01

But I do support your right to mispronounce any word if you prefer to do so.

kittylester Sun 22-Sept-13 13:50:54

Do you eat scons or scowns? confused

I grow syphillis in the garden, apparently, but I didn't know that they were edible. grin

KatyK Sun 22-Sept-13 13:50:16

Apparently John Prescott loves travelling but is always happy when his feet are back on terracotta.

Aka Sun 22-Sept-13 13:47:01

That doesn't make it correct when

Smiter Sun 22-Sept-13 13:32:34

oh and apparently if my stepfather's daughter didn't go into labour she was to go into hospital to be "seduced"

Smiter Sun 22-Sept-13 13:31:18

My mother offered me some syphillis to eat. I'll leave you to work it out.

whenim64 Sun 22-Sept-13 10:25:18

It's just occurred to me that some say orl-mond and others say ol-mond (I do) so even more variation round here! grin

whenim64 Sun 22-Sept-13 10:20:16

It depends where you grew up, anno. Manchester and much of the north-west say it with the l.

annodomini Sun 22-Sept-13 10:17:14

Ah-mund. No-one pronounces the 'l' in salmon...or do they?

Elegran Sun 22-Sept-13 10:12:33

But why is it correct? Who says so? The BBC? Oxbridge? Court circles?

London took the moral high ground on what is "correct" because the court and government were there, and people thronged there from all over the country, but the linguistic superiority was only because of the numbers of those who adopted that local variation of dialect over the one they left behind. Then the Beeb spoke to the nation in the voice of the upper classes. to the rest it was "received pronunciation".

MiceElf Sun 22-Sept-13 09:51:03

The l like the r, makes itself heard on the west side of the Pennines.