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Going forward!

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Lilygran Tue 21-Jan-14 10:10:24

This expression was used three times in quick succession on Today this morning. Once it meant 'in future' (so why didn't he say that?). Twice it meant nothing at all. The other meaningless expression around at the moment is 'to be fair'. Sometimes it seems to mean 'to be honest'. Where do these expressions come from? And why do they spread so quickly?

janeainsworth Tue 21-Jan-14 10:19:26

Lily would you agree that 'going forward' is synonymous with 'moving on', or is there a nuance of difference?
I think these things spread, partly because of the way we learn language by imitation. This view is perhaps informed by the fact that I'm staying with my DGS (2.5 years old) and am fascinated by how rapidly his vocabulary increases and his usage improves.
The expression I am trying to stop myself from using at the moment is 'Back in the day'.
Wherever did that one come from?

Lilygran Tue 21-Jan-14 10:22:56

Jane I think there is an element of the idea of progress but quite often you can't find it!

Riverwalk Tue 21-Jan-14 10:29:51

Most of these phrases are American - soon we'll have news reporters saying "We tried to reach out to so and so ....." instead of, we tried to contact.

I heard so much of this reaching out business in the US recently!

Some US phrases are very useful - what did we say before 'sleepover' ?grin

JessM Tue 21-Jan-14 10:35:59

Sports expression? Certainly sports commentators and personalities are beset with these phrases that they use to keep the flow of words going.
Private Eye used to run a great column called Colman Balls e.g. its a game of two halves.
Best one i ever heard was
Now the princess is kissing the cox of the Oxford team.
grin

Grannyknot Tue 21-Jan-14 10:47:12

I see "Forward" all the time where it used to be "FOREWORD" e.g. in a book.

Elegran Tue 21-Jan-14 11:03:31

Is there a difference in the two? "Foreword" for the text/words that precede the main book, and "forward" like "backward" and "upward" ?

durhamjen Tue 21-Jan-14 11:17:18

I think many of the phrases that grate on me come from the MBA courses that lots of people seem to do these days. I hate "going forward" too.

kittylester Tue 21-Jan-14 11:30:19

I hate 'going forward' but the other day I heard Ed Milliband say 'shine a light on' far too many times in one interview. [grrrr]

Ana Tue 21-Jan-14 11:30:43

I don't understand your post, Elegran! confused

Anne58 Tue 21-Jan-14 11:36:00

I did. Well, I think I did!

Ana Tue 21-Jan-14 11:40:21

Well, please explain it to me, then! grin

Anne58 Tue 21-Jan-14 11:43:47

ForEwOrd - preface to a book or other writing

ForwArd - to move in a direction that is not backwards.

Ana Tue 21-Jan-14 11:45:42

Well, yes, I knew that. Elegran was implying that there was no difference between the two words, though...

Ana Tue 21-Jan-14 11:46:45

Perhaps it's Grannyknot's post I don't understand!

Elegran Tue 21-Jan-14 12:04:51

No, I was implying that there is a difference, and that is why they are spelt differently.

Grannyknot Tue 21-Jan-14 12:13:04

Yes there is a difference as per Elegran - so surely the piece in the front of a book is a "Foreword" not a "Forward"?

Ana Tue 21-Jan-14 12:15:44

That's what I was thinking...but where are you seeing Forward when it should be Foreword all the time, Grannyknot? Do they actually use Forward as the heading?

Grannyknot Tue 21-Jan-14 12:24:03

Yes! In policy documents at work, sometimes even in books. And then I think "What happened to FOREWORD which makes perfect sense, "before the word".

Anne58 Tue 21-Jan-14 12:27:35

There you go, sorted! grin

rosesarered Tue 21-Jan-14 12:34:13

I think I feel like having a lie down now.So, I shall go and 'roll out' my duvet while 'reaching out to' a pillow, and 'going forward' to my bed.

Ana Tue 21-Jan-14 12:35:51

I agree, Grannyknot. 'Forward' makes no sense at all!

Anne58 Tue 21-Jan-14 12:36:04

Slightly changing tack, anyone else getting annoyed with the advertisement featuring Dick Fosbury (of Flop fame) ?

He states that his high jump technique changed the world What? I don't think so!

rosesarered Tue 21-Jan-14 18:23:57

Who is Dick Fosbury [flop fame????]Oh it's sport [know nothing about that but he certainly has a high opinion of himself.]

Elegran Tue 21-Jan-14 18:59:59

High-jumper who invented a new way of jumping over the bar in 1968.

Youtube video here www.youtube.com/watch?v=Id4W6VA0uLc