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Going forward!

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Lilygran Tue 21-Jan-14 10:10:24

This expression was used three times in quick succession on Today this morning. Once it meant 'in future' (so why didn't he say that?). Twice it meant nothing at all. The other meaningless expression around at the moment is 'to be fair'. Sometimes it seems to mean 'to be honest'. Where do these expressions come from? And why do they spread so quickly?

whenim64 Wed 22-Jan-14 11:46:04

Yes, Iam - 'blue sky thinking' and 'helicopter vision' can't be used more than once in a lifetime without your colleagues realising what a plonker you are. We had a colleague who peppered her meeting input with every daft phrase she had heard from senior managers, and sure enough she was promoted to her own level of incompetence. Demoted just before I retired!

Iam64 Wed 22-Jan-14 11:44:46

Yes indeed newest, or won't in reality.
I just read the summary of a Part 8 review, into the murder of a 2 year old boy who lived a couple of miles away. His stepfather caused over 20 significant injuries to the little chap, whose mother found him floppy, and he was dead on arrival in hospital. The findings, and recommendations, could have been cut and pasted from any of the other part 8 reviews over recent years.
Sorry all - I don't want to derail this fun thread, but 'lessons will be learnt' increasingly makes me want to chuck stuff at the tv/radio.

newist Wed 22-Jan-14 11:40:04

Yes but "lessons will be learnt"

Iam64 Wed 22-Jan-14 11:37:56

When - did you have competitions to see how many times team members could use the buzzwords. One of my favourites was "we're on a journey", as some kind of excuse for the mess an organisation I was employed by increasingly got itself into.

whenim64 Wed 22-Jan-14 11:35:32

Oh, yes, phoenix! grin we would make predictions about buzzwords and b******t and who would score the highest (usually over-ambitious middle managers). We even had a b******t spray (fresh air spray with customised cover) for use to clear the air after meetings. Looking back, I can't believe I sat through thousands of hours of such meetings listening to that rubbish without laughing hysterically (although there were a few judicious 'excuse me's' as I left the room to avoid it). Happy days!

Iam64 Wed 22-Jan-14 11:20:41

I'm loving this thread! that's probably an expression I should not use, isn't it. I am though, i am, loving it that is.

I dislike the use of "of" instead of 'have'. I loathe people starting a sentence with "I'm sorry, but", not only because as Newist says, if you have to apologise in advance, don't say it. I find it's used to excuse being deliberately offensive. Just as some people say 'I call a spade a spade', when they mean they actually enjoy causing offence.

I confess to missing hearing the phrase 'totes amaze balls'. It was one of my youngest's giddy expressions of joy - and she's now 6 months into travelling. I may ask her to say it when she skypes, though I fear she is more sophisticated as a result of her travels….. plus, it was always tongue in cheek. Sad eh.

newist Wed 22-Jan-14 10:50:29

When someone starts a sentence with "I am sorry but" if they have to apologise in advance of saying something they should either, not say it or, have courage in what they are saying

Anne58 Wed 22-Jan-14 10:32:08

Anyone else ever play "bullsh*t" bingo in meetings? grin

Gorki Wed 22-Jan-14 10:22:58

"The majority of.......". Why not MOST ?

Dragonfly1 Wed 22-Jan-14 10:20:40

Your boating post made me chuckle Jess. I've a smutty mind.... My pet hate is 'I thought to myself...' - how would you think to anybody else?

Thistledoo Wed 22-Jan-14 09:34:19

My favourite GRRR expression is. I have to say. Why do you have to say, you don't have to say, if you don't want to say don't. grin

JessM Wed 22-Jan-14 08:56:17

Thank you. In rugby "going forward into the second half we need to see the Welsh team going forward" - I think i have heard that said...
In future we need to see them attacking more? But at least one use is OK and I think it probably originated in one or other form of football.

Mishap Wed 22-Jan-14 05:08:53

"On a daily basis" - "every day" would do! This really grates on me.

Gally Wed 22-Jan-14 04:11:53

Are you still in the US of A jane?

janeainsworth Wed 22-Jan-14 02:57:59

I obviously didn't have your perseverance Gally grin
Quite shock now!!

Gally Wed 22-Jan-14 02:37:55

.........don't stop to read about horizontal peeing, just enter 'going forward' grin

Gally Wed 22-Jan-14 02:35:38

www.urbandictionary.com Para 6 blush

janeainsworth Wed 22-Jan-14 01:54:52

Oh go on Gallygrin
I have just googled it and didn't find aything rude at all<disappointed face>

Gally Tue 21-Jan-14 23:42:17

Just Googled 'going forward' and read a really rude interpretation. So rude, I couldn't bring myself to repeat it blush.
Going forward = Advance, or is that too simplistic?

Joan Tue 21-Jan-14 22:48:14

I'm sure people who use all these fashionable business phrases have no idea of the lip-curling disgust that people with good language skills feel about them! They probably lose credibility from the very people they want to impress. I've certainly turned away in disgust at talks given by people who use this stuff. I just stop listening.

I got mad in my last job (bookkeeper to a library supplier - journals) when they started talking about a 'mission statement'. It sounded like a daft, quasi-religious term for 'purpose' and I said so - forcibly. No-one else could see my point.

absent Tue 21-Jan-14 22:30:00

I think "going forward" is intended to indicate a more aggressive dynamism than a simple "in future". However, verbal dynamism is usually as far as it goes – words speaking louder than actions among habitual users of this tedious phrase.

Galen Tue 21-Jan-14 22:25:48

Grrrrrrrangry at this present moment in time! NOW!

Anne58 Tue 21-Jan-14 22:22:53

At the end of the day..........

Icyalittle Tue 21-Jan-14 21:39:43

Of course we're grumpy! 'Of' instead of 'have' is ignorant and destructive of clear communication. Were these people never taught any grammar? [flounce emoticon]
Sorry not to have appreciated your efforts JessM. grin grin grin grin grin
Hope you are feeling better now? I mean - going forward at this moment in time?

feetlebaum Tue 21-Jan-14 19:51:20

How about phrases like 'totes amazeballs' (completely amazing) and 'feels' instead of 'feelings'?

I'm also very bored with 'totally', usually pronounced 'toadally' of course.