"It's the Thing that counts..."

jings thanks for making me

And now my hands stink of garlic.

OMG. It gets worse.

I didn't.

Thanks Ana

dwarfs v dwarves FYI Jingl (hope you enjoyed the dhal)!

nice one

I wish I'd never brought dwarves into this conversation.

I am sorry, but I am afraid I cant get my head around how the likes of twitter users and the Show Racism the Red Card charity were not acting in defence of a group of people.

This is a link, but I am not sure if it is what you are looking for.

www.smh.com.au/entertainment/movies/benedict-cumberbatch-under-fire-for-coloured-actors-remark-20150127-12yryt.html

Thanks for that link about what Oyelowo has said, dj.

Love those Dilbert quotes, Anya!

My last post was addressed to soon.

I've seen no acting in defence of a group of people, perhaps you can post a link.

I refer back to my previous post about a dwarf who told me in no uncertain terms that he was a dwarf and did not want any pussyfooting around with other silly euphemisms. He was PROUD of being a dwarf and there were no negative feelings about it on his part that had to be taken into consideration. He was more insulted by people trying to find tactful terms for what was his very being, as if that being inherently carried some sort of negative taint.

I would feel the same if someone tried to call me a human female of mature years - I'm a middle aged woman and proud of it!

It really can be insulting to pussyfoot around people as though their very being is something to be careful about.

jingl - of course they can stand up for themselves!

Riverwalk. I am talking about the people in Hollywood or whereever it was getting all jumpy about what Cumberbatch said. They were trying to act in defence of a group of people who can perfectly well speak up for themselves.

And I'm going to go and make some dahl.

grammer/grammar sp?

Snow White and the Seven persons with dwarfism.....
I give up,

Using the words "coloured" and "Jew" is not just a grammer thing.

This bit - from Anya's article

"Well, consider this: If someone were to use the word “dwarf”, many would be more likely to think of the mythical being rather than a person with dwarfism, because that noun dehumanizes them. By referring to a group of people with a collective noun, we separate them as “others” rather than considering them as people who happen to have a particular trait.

But if we set that trait apart by making it an adjective, we put emphasis on the person’s humanity: She’s not a Jew, she’s a Jewish person. He’s not a dwarf, he’s a person with dwarfism.

This fine distinction may be pedantic and overly sensitive to some, but it is interesting how such a simple case of grammar can affect our perception of others."

Calling someone a Jew is not the same as labelling someone a dwarf because they suffer from dwarfism. The name "Jew" has many more connotations. And that's why I think the article is rubbishy.

Sorry.

That's not fair.

Or perhaps it's like Dilbert....

"Everything you say is right. But I have a reflective urge to disagree with you"

"If you don't mind I'm going to make a ridiculous counterpoint just to get it out of my system"

?

soon no one was defending anyone - merely commenting on Cumberbatch's outdated phrase.

Err! Because of the poslsibility that the time might come - again - when they can't stand up for themselves.

I quite like "brainstorming". Very descriptive.

Good article.

Why do some white people in general insist on defending people who need no defence.
People who can actually stand up and talk for themselves.

It is patronising and demeaning.