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It's a baby - not a newborn!

(51 Posts)
Sillyoldbird Tue 25-Aug-15 13:14:31

Is anyone else irritated by people referring to their child by their age rather than son/daughter/child/by their name? For example, "I am taking my newborn/1 year old to the clinic today", rather than "I am taking the baby/Jimmy/my daughter to the clinic today" .

It seems to have become rather a habit lately and it annoys me beyond belief. Newborn is an adjective, not a noun! I can't think why it annoys me so much other than the grammar - and because it makes the child sound like an object instead of a person. I'm ok if they say "newborn baby" but not just "newborn".

I also don't like it when asking the age of a child, somone replies, "21 months) instead of 1 or nearly 2. Why do they have to be so precise?

With both things, I think it comes across as a bit smug/superior. Grrrrrrr.

Perhaps it's just me? I am a easily irritated these days.

Katek Wed 26-Aug-15 15:08:28

There was a TV ad a few months ago with the usual gorgeous chap extolling the virtues of his equally gorgeous wife that had me shouting at the telly. Can't remember if it was shampoo, face cream or what it was that she used to stay looking so good (!) but he ran through a list of all the things that she'd managed to overcome to retain her looks including not just one, but TWO newborns!! Cue me squawking at the box!

Up here children are bairns or bairnies with girls being quines/quinies and boys being loons/loonies.

rosesarered Wed 26-Aug-15 16:03:47

Yes, that advert Katek, infuriating isn't it, all for some hair dye!

Ana Wed 26-Aug-15 16:06:06

Loonies? shock

henetha Wed 26-Aug-15 17:24:37

Babies/newborns/bairns..... whatever. Does it matter? More important things to get your knickers in a twist about, surely.

Elrel Tue 28-Feb-17 19:21:20

Neonates?

Iam64 Tue 28-Feb-17 19:48:47

Thanks thatbags and henetha - this OP brought out my determined 'give them all a break' frock.
Incidentally, I refer to one of my grandchildren as being 13 months and the other is 20 months. What's the problem?

Ana Tue 28-Feb-17 19:51:20

Quite an old thread though...hmm

Iam64 Tue 28-Feb-17 20:02:22

Well spotted there Ana. I'm full of a cold and not at the top of my game!

Katek Tue 28-Feb-17 22:10:32

Or baby horse or cow or sheep!! What's wrong with foal, calf or lamb?? As for newborns - it does my head in as they say. There was an advert for some skin care product where the husband is waxing lyrical about his wife's looks despite all that life has thrown at her .......including two newborns.! Aargh!

Hopehope Tue 28-Feb-17 23:58:08

We are all different, and it isn't a matter of who is right and who is wrong. I quite like Kiddywinks, and often call my DGD Kiddytwinkle. I am quite new here, but I think entitled to my opinion too, mind you I don't think I get noticed much as I hardly receive any comment back

So " Grannywrinkles" perhaps you will read this one. I just made that word up, and quite like it too. Before anyone gets stroppy or offended, which seems to happen easily on here. I am a Grannywrinkle too, and proud of it grin

absent Wed 01-Mar-17 03:58:55

Children, especially young children have been called kids since the seventeenth century. It's probably time to stop moaning about it.

PamelaJ1 Wed 01-Mar-17 07:27:14

All of these 'pet' names have to be better than some of the terms that I hear being used to or of their offspring in public.

Christinefrance Wed 01-Mar-17 07:40:45

Yes I have to agree with PamelaJ Some parents use awful terms when speaking of and to their children.
Baby lambs is annoying though ?

Leticia Wed 01-Mar-17 07:42:56

I can't see that it matters- or certainly not enough to find a thread that is 6 mths old!

thatbags Wed 01-Mar-17 07:50:39

Perhaps someone who calls a foal a baby horse just doesn't know the word foal (English not first language, for instance) or did know it but has forgotten it (old age, dementia, for instance).

Cut some slack, dudes. It might be you with the forgettery next.

thatbags Wed 01-Mar-17 07:53:36

I often, in the heat of the moment, can't remember a word that I do know. Plus, I just like it when people are imaginative and/or inventive in their use of words. So long as what people say is comprehensible, I'm happy. And my first thought if I don't understand is that it's not necessarily the speaker's fault!

Katek Wed 01-Mar-17 08:54:08

I don't think it's so much forgettery (lovely word) or unfamiliarity with English bags, as part of the the creeping anthropomorphisation of animals that sees dogs in pyjamas! (That's not a word for using pre second cuppa)!)

Elegran Wed 01-Mar-17 09:12:53

Babies are newborn for a disappointingly short time - and any baby with a younger sibling is definitely not new!

lilihu Wed 01-Mar-17 10:22:44

When did everyone , especially the media, start using the term "falling pregnant" ?
If I'd known about it I would have been more careful in my high heels.

rosesarered Wed 01-Mar-17 14:11:04

We used to fall pregnant.....now we just fall over.....old age eh?wink

Deedaa Thu 30-Mar-17 20:16:25

My son in law always talks about newborns, but the poor soul is American!

Christinefrance Thu 30-Mar-17 21:43:54

And your point is Deedaa ?

paddyann Thu 30-Mar-17 22:10:44

Katek I love the Doric,I have a friend who FB's me in Doric all the time ,took me a while to figure it out as lallans is my idiom .Except when I answer the phone and it posh scots ...lol

paddyann Thu 30-Mar-17 22:13:40

I did object when an obnoxious young MOD policeman pointed his gun at me and told my husband to "tell your FILLY to get out of the car" no need for it and I duly reported him to the senior officer we were visiting at the nuclear facility .Civility costs nothing .

pensionpat Fri 31-Mar-17 00:48:28

Roses we don't fall over. We "have a fall"