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When did X become Y?

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Wheniwasyourage Sun 15-May-16 17:54:36

When did "riding" become "horse-riding"? (Bicycle riding is "cycling".)

When did "skating" become "ice-skating"? (Roller-skating is a different activity.)

When did "nightlights" become "tealights" - and what on earth Is a tealight anyway?

I blame the Americans for the first two, but really don't understand the third one. Anybody got any ideas or any other suggestions?

Atqui Tue 17-May-16 13:57:43

Isn't it human nature to want someone to agree when 'having a moan'. The last thing you want is a Pollyanna telling you to get over it !( or whatever the correct phrase might be). That's presumably why people post on this particular forum.

Atqui Tue 17-May-16 14:00:36

I suppose the incorrect combination of HENCE and WHY will soon be deemed to be grammatically correct. ( That's my personal grouse)

thatbags Tue 17-May-16 14:04:52

And people who moan should always get what they want. People who disagree with them should shut the fuck up and bugger off.

You don't post much, atqui.

MaizieD Tue 17-May-16 15:58:19

And to think people on Gransnet think that Mumsnet is scary! I don't think you could get a cigarette paper between them.

NonnaAnnie Tue 17-May-16 16:03:56

I hate train station too, and the other one that drives me nuts is season instead of series. Grrrrrrrr!

thatbags Tue 17-May-16 16:32:42

My last post should have had a sarc emoji. What I said was what the previous poster seemed to me to be saying, except I put her rude comment in plain language to make its nastiness clear.

She's not the only one on this thread who seems to think no-one is allowed to express a different (and sweetly reasonable wink) point of view.

Atqui Tue 17-May-16 16:51:03

And you wonder why I don't post much Bags?

thatbags Tue 17-May-16 17:13:12

Well, I'm sorry if I misinterpreted Pollyanna. I've only ever heard it used negatively and insultingly. If my paraphrasing of your post was wrong, I'll happily withdraw it.

thatbags Tue 17-May-16 17:16:30

I recognised the username, atqui, from the long distant past is all and wondered why what seemed to me to be a sniping comment was what brought you back to comment. I thought the thread had been friendly before that, even though a few people had politely and/or amusingly commented that they didn't want to be disagreed with.

GandTea Tue 17-May-16 18:10:13

Could someone explain "pollyanna" to me please, it has obviously been missed out of my education.

Atqui Tue 17-May-16 18:11:30

thatbags Mon 16-May-16 15:56:08
"Think I'd go for some help if I was getting in such a stew about a word (guys). Save your hate for things that really need it, like cruelty."
The two are not mutually exclusive. I didn't think that comment was friendly or amusing.

thatbags Tue 17-May-16 19:34:11

Well it wasn't intended to be unfriendly. I'm honestly bemused, if that's the right word, by anyone hate, hate, HATING (can't remember who said that but someone did and a few have used the word hate, which I regard as quite strong) something so trivial as 'train station', or 'guys'. And I would seek some way of getting over such strong feelings about something of so little importance if I were afflicted. So what I said was straight down the line in a detached, non-personal way.

I do get the feeling that some people don't 'get' detachment and looking at a subject unemotionally, philosophically. That's all I was doing. It's rare, in Gransnet discussions, that I do anything else. At least that is what I consciously make an effort to do.

So none of my comments need be taken as anything else than philosophically bemused or puzzled. None that is until someone started throwing insults around.

gandtea, I'm not very familiar with the Pollyanna character but I understand she was a little girl who, whatever happened, always tried to be cheerful and positive. So the name is used as an insult by some people when they think someone's philosophical detachment (not getting all upset and going about HATING stuff because they don't think it's worth it) about something is contrived rather than genuine.

gettingonabit Tue 17-May-16 19:36:42

gandtea I think it means a person who does not see negativity, and is perpetually bright and breezy, regardless of the circumstances.

What's wrong with a good old lighthearted moan, anyhoo? It's only an anonymous internet forum after all...

GandTea Tue 17-May-16 19:39:15

Thanks both (now someone must hate that one !). She sounds just like me, always positive and happy (I don't think)

thatbags Tue 17-May-16 19:39:42

I was never intending to be amusing, btw, just straightforward, as usual. It was other people's comments I took to be amusing. Perhaps they weren't meant to be but they could be interpreted as such. I don't think anyone resorted to name-calling until your comment, atqui. Name-calling is unfriendly, and deliberately too.

thatbags Tue 17-May-16 19:41:42

Nothing wrong at all, gettingonabit, but "hate, hate, HATE" and similarly stressed comments don't come across to me as particularly light-hearted. Face to face, they might have but I didn't have that benefit. The words by themselves seemed very far from light-hearted to me.

gettingonabit Tue 17-May-16 19:44:07

Sorry x-posted with thatbags.

It was me who used "hate*, by the way. In a lighthearted way, I'd hoped, as befits what I thought was a good place to vent about these totally inconsequential things.

I think I'll stick to "the other side" in future. wink. Much friendlier...

thatbags Tue 17-May-16 19:44:38

Easy to misinterpret the use of a word like hate that I would only use of things like cruelty and dishonesty. I don't hate merely irritating things. However, if a lot of people use the word hate, and similarly strong ones, light-heartedly, then I've learned something.

thatbags Tue 17-May-16 19:46:49

Plenty of other people used the word hate as well, gettingonabit.

gettingonabit Tue 17-May-16 19:47:16

Xpost again*bags*. Sorry for any offence caused.

Who's throwing insults round?

thatbags Tue 17-May-16 19:53:00

Not you, gettingonabit, and no offence either. Nor me neither. Straightforward is (one of) my middle names smile

gettingonabit Tue 17-May-16 19:54:31

thatbags I get your point. Yes, "hate" is a strong word, I suppose, but it's about context, surely?

Of course I don't "hate" the word "guys" in the real, serious sense of the word. That'd be daft. Which is why using it and similar words on a forum such as this is well..a bit flippant? Not intended to be serious? Just a bit of fun?

thatbags Tue 17-May-16 19:54:45

The only insult I'm aware of is the Pollyanna one. I don't think the person using it likes me. Shrug.

thatbags Tue 17-May-16 19:56:58

gettingonabit, and I get your point, now. It just never occurred to me that hate, loathe, really irritate, etc were light-hearted. In future I'll bear that possibility in mind.

But nobody mentioned being light-hearted further up thread or I might have understood sooner. Seemed to me everyone was getting in a right stew over nothing.

thatbags Tue 17-May-16 19:58:07

Made some squidgy brownies earlier. Peace offering...

Well, a virtual one.