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Seen in Waitrose - oh dear

(51 Posts)
MawBroon Wed 05-Jul-17 05:38:35

No gift would make this right for English teachers ??

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/07/04/really-waitrose-supermarket-makes-apostrophe-error-gifts-teachers/

Blinko Wed 05-Jul-17 13:32:12

My son is slightly dyslexic so at his request, I proof read all his submissions when he was at uni. I noticed some comments from tutors that were either misspelt or had incorrect use of grammar.... Is anyone teaching the English language correctly nowadays? Does it matter?

lizzypopbottle Wed 05-Jul-17 14:19:41

Reading these threads makes me feel quite stressed. I feel my heart rate going up when I read about poor grammar, spelling and punctuation. Some posts on GN are totally devoid of punctuation, as if the writer just types a stream of words without even a mental pause. It makes it quite difficult to read.
As a former primary teacher, I had to attend regular training courses. At an English course, the county's Consultant for English put her Power Point title screen on the huge whiteboard asking us, "Who's job is it?"

As a Key Stage 1 SATs moderator, I received a letter, from the county's Head of Assessment, thanking me for attending an interview. It began, "Thank you for coming to see Jane Smith and I." If Jane Smith had been unable to attend, would this highly paid, very high powered and often rather unpleasant woman have written, "Thank you for coming to see I."? Everyone makes mistakes but some people have a responsibility to be very careful.

I will lie down in a darkened room.

Ana Wed 05-Jul-17 14:25:36

I'm amazed sometimes by the spelling and punctuation mistakes made on GN by retired teachers.

Somehow I don't expect it of those of us who were educated in the 50s,60s and 70s.

Kim19 Wed 05-Jul-17 14:29:46

Well.......all of the offerings I've read here are better than the dreaded Febury!

pollyperkins Wed 05-Jul-17 16:17:44

In case you are referring to me, in my defence I often write on an iphone with a very small keyboard. It's sometimes just too slow and fiddly when I'm in a hurry to change the keyboard from letters to punctuation to add apostrophes, (or even to make a capital 'I', so sometimes 'i' slips in by mistake). I do know how to write and get as annoyed as eveyone else at incorrect apostrophes (as well as misspellings.). However my iphone and ipad think they know better and 'correct' what I've written and turn it into gobbledegook!
I also type quickly with lots of errors and forget to edit!
These are not mistakes I would make when writing with a pen, or even on the laptop!

Nanny27 Wed 05-Jul-17 16:23:47

Is anyone on here as infuriated as I am about the use of 'yourself and 'myself which appears to have replaced 'you and 'me' recently?

pollyperkins Wed 05-Jul-17 16:33:20

One thing that really annoys me is the use of 'myself' instead of 'me'. This is becoming very common. Examples: 'Please send a stamped addressed envelope to Mr X or myself.'
'Myself and my friend will be there'. (Wrong for two reasons and as bad as 'me and my friend') It should be 'My friend and I', of course.

But then people think that 'Betty and I' is always correct which it isn't necessarily. I've heard people on TV sign off with 'Goodbye from Steve and I'. WRONG WRONG WRONG! As someone remarked above, just omit the other person from the sentence - you wouldn't say Goodbye from I!

OK, enough ranting for now.

pollyperkins Wed 05-Jul-17 16:33:54

Crossed posts Nanny27.

Luckylegs9 Wed 05-Jul-17 16:37:22

Missdeake, the world has gone made employing dyslectic teachers. That wouldn't happen in a private school, parents wouldn't stand for it, it's as if anything is OK for state pupils.

Conni7 Wed 05-Jul-17 16:49:10

I am a pedant about spelling and punctuation (especially apostrophes)and have bored everyone with my rants. Therefore let me recommend "Eats Shoots and Leaves" by Lynne Truss, and her follow-up on rudeness in everyday life "Talk to the Hand". Then there is "i before e (except after c)" by Judy Parkinson and "Accomodating Brocolli in the Cemetary" by Vivian Cook. These are the sort of books I am given as Christmas presents! Obviously, I don't need them!!

Ana Wed 05-Jul-17 16:53:16

Shouldn't that be 'Eats, Shoots and Leaves' Conni7?

Conni7 Wed 05-Jul-17 17:02:47

Yes, sorry! There's a little teddy painting out the comma on my copy.

Smurf44 Wed 05-Jul-17 18:46:29

On the last day of the Easter term my GD and 3 other pupils were each awarded a "Headteachers Commendation Award" (sic) badge by the Head mistress with no apostrophe whatsoever!!! The Head is, apparently, a specialist English teacher. I noticed the mistake immediately and GD mentioned it to the Head, Deputy Head and her own English teacher at the beginning of the summer term - but grammatically correct badges have not been issued. Imagine GD's embarrassment last week when she was asked by the Deputy Head to assist with a presentation about school awards to 30 teachers from all over the Midlands and one of them commented on the missing apostrophe! "I know" was my GD's response!
My GD attends one of the leading (most popular) secondary schools in the area and we regularly find grammatical errors in school information letters. We have been tempted to correct them in red and return to school with 'Could do better' at the bottom. Maybe we should!

MagicWand Wed 05-Jul-17 18:49:35

Saw these 'marked' ones last week! Made me laugh so much I had to take photos!!

quizqueen Wed 05-Jul-17 18:52:18

My pet hate, along with misused apostrophes and poor spelling, is the use of 'gonna' instead of 'going to', could/should/would 'of' instead of 'have' and off 'of' something instead of just off!

George Osborne and David Cameron always said, 'I'm gonna...' and it made me want to thrown something at the tv screen. A waste of a private education.

I told someone off at work today because they answered my question with, 'Uh?' and then followed it up with, 'What?' but without even the 't' sound at the end. It's rude. I work in education and always make the children say, 'Pardon' if they want something repeated. The staff should model this pattern of speech too.

MagicWand Wed 05-Jul-17 18:54:31

P.S. I also get slightly exasperated at misplaced apostrophes, etc. but felt the comedy value outweighed the pedant! I even wondered for about a second whether Waitrose had done it on purpose!!

harrigran Wed 05-Jul-17 19:15:17

My BIL carries his red pen and has been known to cross out apostrophes on market signs, he also rubs out on chalkboards and my BIL is not even British grin

Caro1954 Wed 05-Jul-17 20:49:46

I agree with all of you but my pet hate is Bregzit instead of Brexit. Though come to think of it, I hate both!

FarNorth Wed 05-Jul-17 20:58:52

Some mistakes on GN will be because of predictive text, especially if the person has used a phone with tiny buttons and small screen.
My tablet loves to write it's when I mean its, and I don't always remember to check.

FarNorth Wed 05-Jul-17 21:03:21

I saw a facebook post recently saying "could of" and "should of".

A response asked "Of you done that lately?"

MawBroon Thu 06-Jul-17 05:45:56

That was my point Magic Wand - see my original post <sigh>

Anya Thu 06-Jul-17 06:26:17

I, too, will lie down in a darkened room!

Jalima1108 Thu 06-Jul-17 11:29:28

I've never seen 'Bregzit'!

FarNorth Thu 06-Jul-17 12:39:13

Not seen, but I've heard 'Bregzit' a lot recently.

AlexG Thu 06-Jul-17 13:08:57

I complained to M&S a couple of years ago as all their signs in the shoe department advertised 'sandles' for sale. AAARRRgh. Their reply was on the lines of 'oh well, never mind, people know what they are'.