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"Going forward..."

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JackieBee1 Thu 06-Jul-17 20:16:09

When did "...in the future..." become "...going forward..."??

Alima Thu 06-Jul-17 20:28:47

Absolutely yonks ago. Together with other completely useless corporate lingo in conference rooms all over the country.

phoenix Thu 06-Jul-17 20:30:36

Probably when "now" became "at this moment in time"

Chewbacca Thu 06-Jul-17 21:22:08

And when "you" became "yourself". Why? Just why?

MawBroon Thu 06-Jul-17 22:21:05

Hate it, hate it, hate it!

Christinefrance Fri 07-Jul-17 06:52:34

And " forward planning " or " looking back in retrospect "
grrrr

yggdrasil Fri 07-Jul-17 09:01:16

Yourself and Myself, now this is interesting. Many languages, (and English a time ago), have different ways of addressing people. Like in French where you say 'vous' to an adult of similar of higher status, but 'tu' to a child or possibly a servant.
When these youngsters in call centres for example address you on the phone, saying 'you' sounds too forward, so they use the modified 'yourself' to show they are of lower status. Ditto with 'me' or 'I' It sounds too strong to say 'it was said by me' so it becomes 'it was said by myself'. I don't think this one will go away smile

Nannarose Fri 07-Jul-17 09:10:36

Yes, I hate 'corporate lingo' but am interested in the ways in which language changes.

I noticed that the adding of 'self'seemed to me by people who spoke English as a second language and assumed it had now spread.

I also find it interesting that in our class-obsessed society we long ago (with some regional exceptions) abandoned the formal / informal 'you' which was kept by cultures / languages that appear much more democratic.

Teetime Fri 07-Jul-17 09:16:26

I hate it too. When I was at work some senior managers thought use of this corporate language made them better and clever than the rest of us in the Plain English camp so we used to play B***cks Bingo... everytime some on used one of these words or phrases during a meeting you scored a point.
My Boss was always wanting to 'touch base' - you want to see me? and to 'keep me in the loop', keep me informed. She spent her time charging about the place in a mini skirted business suit with a cup of Starbucks coffee in her hand yelling into her mobile- most of the time to her children so she could complain of not having any 'me time'. Aaarghhh.

Lisalou Sat 08-Jul-17 09:24:02

It would appear that the use of reflexive pronouns in the place of personal pronouns is considered to be more formal by many. It is used commonly in the US, hence, I am afraid, the spread of it. It is incorrect, but sadly, very much in use

Torquoise5 Sat 08-Jul-17 09:25:20

This is a ,"journey" in which we must all "participate". wink

Teetime Sat 08-Jul-17 09:29:19

with passion

dracool Sat 08-Jul-17 09:44:04

I would love to know why every sentence now has to start with the word so.

Skweek1 Sat 08-Jul-17 09:49:02

Let's draw a line under that at this moment in time. We played the corporate lingo lotto too. And what about that ghastly "Escape to the Country" where my family plays the same game - "quirky" house, with spacious kitchen-diner, dining space, family bathroom and en-suite etc

Disgruntled Sat 08-Jul-17 09:49:40

"Sat" and "stood" when it should be "sitting" and "standing". "Absolutely" now means "yes" apparently.

Chewbacca Sat 08-Jul-17 09:49:51

Yes dracool! I've noticed that too. Even well educated, otherwise eloquent people being interviewed on Radio 4 in the morning begin their sentence with "So....". I don't understand why?

missdeke Sat 08-Jul-17 09:54:54

You use reflexive pronouns to refer to the subject of a sentence again, later in a sentence. For instance, 'I have seen it myself'. You only need to use 'myself' where 'me' won't fit.

The use of 'push the envelope' irritates me, why would anyone say anything so ridiculous!

W11girl Sat 08-Jul-17 09:56:56

I agree all these terms are irritating at times, but not half as irritating as text speak/grammar/spelling...so I welcome these "corporate" phrases.

Coco51 Sat 08-Jul-17 10:02:19

And the 'Yeah, no'

Coco51 Sat 08-Jul-17 10:05:22

The thumb on index finger to make a point drives me crazy - it's so affected and fake

edsnana Sat 08-Jul-17 10:07:55

missdeke, also hate "pushing the envelope," utter nonsense! Thank goodness for retirement so not subjected to the corporate jargon anymore. I am forever shouting at the TV when myself and yourself used incorrectly

Christalbee Sat 08-Jul-17 10:09:16

When did 'with' get replaced with 'of'?? As in "I'm fed up 'of' my meighbour, rather than 'with' my neighbour! etc etc

coast35 Sat 08-Jul-17 10:17:27

I don't have any problems only issues!!

Faraway43 Sat 08-Jul-17 10:21:53

Almost Exactly - must be one or the other cant be both

Nanny27 Sat 08-Jul-17 10:25:41

Ooh Skweek. I watch escape to the country just to laugh at the ridiculous language. How many times must they 'tick all the boxes'? But, please please can someone tell me why a house is now always known as a property? What is wrong with 'house' ?