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How do YOU say it?

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MawBroon Thu 14-Feb-19 08:17:00

It doesn’t bother me when people say “chimbley” or “skellington” (it can sound sweet from a child) but when 4 year old DGD said “marshmellow” the other day, it really grated.
I have noticed it in England and cannot for the life of me understand why some people pronounce it this way.
We say “fallow, shallow, mallow” so why on Earth should the vowel change?
In DGD’s case I suspect this is down to the nanny as I did not teach our DDs to say that.
Ducks behind sofa

Framilode Thu 14-Feb-19 19:15:44

What about almond. I say armond but my husband says olmond.

MawBroon Thu 14-Feb-19 19:19:37

Nothing to do with accents though absent, this is effectively a different word (or mispronunciation, )
as I said before like “chimbly” and “skellington” or “mischeevious”

DotMH1901 Fri 15-Feb-19 10:31:40

Marshmallow for me - born in Liverpool, lived in North Wales, Kent and now West Midlands and not heard it pronounced as anything else.

moleswife Fri 15-Feb-19 10:40:07

Thank you Oldgoat for that - I thought I was the only one getting uptight about thu/thee, even when explaining it to others who use 'thee' they don't always get it!

BassGrammy Fri 15-Feb-19 10:41:33

She's 4...does it matter? Have you told her the way you think it's correct? Sometimes children have problems with certain pronunciations. My DGD age 5 also says marshmellow, but probably because no one has told her differently. What really bugs me is when people say Tescos!

MawBroon Fri 15-Feb-19 10:44:26

Of course I have told her (gently) , her brothers (8and7) have told her, but she is adamant.
Not making a thing of it with her though, I wouldn’t be so unkind.

lovebeigecardigans1955 Fri 15-Feb-19 10:46:51

It's mallow in my book.

winterwhite Fri 15-Feb-19 10:50:00

Surprised that you all use or hear the word enough to notice! Not in my everyday vocabulary but maybe I don’t see my GC regularly enough. Don’t recognise this thu thing either (do you say eyether or eether??) Mallow anyway, and armond.

MadeInYorkshire Fri 15-Feb-19 10:54:16

The one I struggle with is 'envelope'!

NotSpaghetti Fri 15-Feb-19 10:55:28

My family used to have Syrup of Marshmallow when we had a bad cough (as a throat-soother with olive oil and rum!) when I was a child. And as a young mum I did make a type of marshmallow confection from this plant. It's always therefore been mallow for me as the connection to the plant was very strong.
I think the "e" version is from America- maybe they also pronounce the plant that way over the pond?

oldgoat Fri 15-Feb-19 10:58:57

winterwhite 'Thu' as in 'Thu apple' rather than 'thee' apple.
Better get off this thread though or I will be told off by the OP for going 'off thread' again

NotSpaghetti Fri 15-Feb-19 11:00:36

Regarding "the" - it looks as though it has several correct pronunciations - but the 1st one is "thuh"
en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/the

annep1 Fri 15-Feb-19 11:03:58

I'm Ireland. Its definitely Preemark.
Marshmallow doesn't have an e. Why pronounce it mellow.

annep1 Fri 15-Feb-19 11:05:23

I'm in Ireland.

Baloothefitz Fri 15-Feb-19 11:08:18

I can't imagine being annoyed at how my four year old grandchild pronounced a word .Oh my days ....

MawBroon Fri 15-Feb-19 11:08:27

Sorry oldgoat when did I “tell you off”?
Apologies.

MawBroon Fri 15-Feb-19 11:09:31

I wasn’t annoyed at my DGD - just asking, the clue is in the thread title. hmm

breeze Fri 15-Feb-19 11:09:35

You say poteyto I say potahto, let's call the whole thing 'orf.

And while I'm at it, who took the 'd' out of avocado!

I say 'mellow'.

Wonder where the 'marsh' comes from (soft and squashy?)

I'm from the South East

The Americans say 'mullow' so it could be worse shock

I've never heard it pronounced 'mallow' though. But then I rarely discuss them and don't eat them. Sickly things.

BassGrammy Fri 15-Feb-19 11:11:41

These little girls can be adamant about a lot of things! We found that a lot of her alternative pronunciations changed when she started school. Although her brother who is 10 still calls the Prime Minister, Choriza May!

lincolnimp Fri 15-Feb-19 11:12:06

Marshmallow here, a mixture if East Midlands and South East but always marshmallow.

Just to adulterate the post. The thing that grates on me is when I hear presenters on TV saying somethink rather than something

Annaram1 Fri 15-Feb-19 11:14:31

Oh my! I had a German student once and he said "English is so illogical!" I said, "what about German, you have masculine and feminine words so that a table is feminine and a chair is masculine, etc, and you have to match the word to a feminine or masculine pronoun such as "das" or "die" or "der " whereas in English all our chairs and tables and everything are genderless and we only put "the" in front. That shut him up.
I say marshmAllow and I'm sure that is right.

marpau Fri 15-Feb-19 11:16:55

Just to wind some up further in my family a child once pronounced it as munch mallow and that word has now stuck I'm afraid

Hm999 Fri 15-Feb-19 11:20:40

Everyone on TV seems to say Island instead of Ireland, Febuary instead of FebRuary

Gaggi3 Fri 15-Feb-19 11:21:18

Don't really mind how it's pronounced as long as no one tries to make me eat the horrid things,

Blondie49 Fri 15-Feb-19 11:21:56

Mallow in Scotland and from my mum who was north England