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Narcissism / narcissistic - labelling

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Lucca Mon 27-Jul-20 08:39:07

Missfoodlove. I’m so sorry for what you had to go through. However I think the point being made is that the term “ narcissist” is thrown around too easily nowadays and in fact using it to describe someone who is just a bit of a pain in the proverbial must surely offend you too as it belittles what your experience was.

geekesse Mon 27-Jul-20 08:33:04

MissFoodLove, the joke was the backwards pun from ‘witch hazel’.

It sounds to me as if your Mother was indeed an ‘unpleasant, unkind, bullying, cruel, self-centred person’ who abused you dreadfully. You may have every right to be angry and bitter. My point was that the term ‘narcissist’ is not appropriate unless it is a medical diagnosis.

MawB Mon 27-Jul-20 08:09:14

MissFoodLove nobody is laughing at you or your dreadful experiences flowers

Missfoodlove Mon 27-Jul-20 08:06:52

“ I rue the day you were born”
“ You’re not fit to lick your brothers boots”
A beating for cleaning the floor with a mop and not on my hands and knees.
Emptying my bank account to provide a present for my wonderful brother.
Being told daily you were stupid.
Allowing me to be beaten by my father for something as trivial as dropping a tissue.
All this before the age of 12.
After this it got worse and worse.

My mother controlled what I ate, wore she was so nasty to any of my friends she took a dislike they wouldn’t come to my house.

She would lie about me to family friends, teachers telling them I was difficult.

By 13 I practically ran the house, I was her slave.

My brother and father were allowed to physically and verbally abuse me.
I must deserve it she would say.

All this time she would be telling me and anyone who would listen how wonderful she was, how hard she worked, how she had always been beautiful and clever.
How she deserved a better daughter.

I could go on but it becomes darker and too painful.
So if all of this gives you a good laugh then great.

You are crass and insensitive.

Bridie22 Mon 27-Jul-20 07:48:16

Well put, I agree totally .

MawB Mon 27-Jul-20 07:36:06

Geekesse - gringringrin
Thank you for a smile on a grey morning and a moment of respite from people who take themselves too seriously!

Lucca Mon 27-Jul-20 07:26:34

Agree. Someone recently complained about a relative’s behaviour and one reply said something along the lines of “she’s obviously a narc”. Aargh. Hate the abbreviation too.

Jane10 Mon 27-Jul-20 07:01:45

geekesse I could have written your post. I agree with every word!

rosecarmel Mon 27-Jul-20 00:37:53

geekesse

rosecarmel

Careful, that underwear might cause hemorrhoids! Hope y'all brought the witch hazel! ?

Rosecarmel, it’s really unkind of you to refer to my friend Hazel, whom I brought along, as a witch...

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geekesse Mon 27-Jul-20 00:24:44

rosecarmel

Careful, that underwear might cause hemorrhoids! Hope y'all brought the witch hazel! ?

Rosecarmel, it’s really unkind of you to refer to my friend Hazel, whom I brought along, as a witch...

rosecarmel Mon 27-Jul-20 00:14:58

What's funny about narcissist frustration is that they stare into reflective screens all day, but worry about their underwear! ?

rosecarmel Mon 27-Jul-20 00:12:20

Careful, that underwear might cause hemorrhoids! Hope y'all brought the witch hazel! ?

sharon103 Mon 27-Jul-20 00:11:17

I absolutely agree.
As my mum used to say, sometimes "it's 6 of one and half a dozen of the other."

Chewbacca Mon 27-Jul-20 00:06:48

Hallelujah! I'll don my asbestos underwear and join you geekesse, budge up!

geekesse Mon 27-Jul-20 00:03:34

These labels get used a lot on GN. Of course, people like to label other people. They especially like to label people they disagree with or dislike. But I do wish they would choose their labels with care.

I think it’s a repeated bad habit here in GN for people to label those they don’t (or didn’t) like as ‘narcissistic’. A poster’s family member may indeed be (or have been) an unpleasant, unkind, bullying, cruel, self-centred person. That describes their attitudes and behaviour. But since we can’t climb inside someone else’s head, we can’t possibly detect whether such attitudes and behaviour are the result of narcissism or some other disorder of personality or reasoning.

Narcissistic personality disorder is a relatively rare diagnosis, and yet narcissism is reported to crop up quite frequently among families of posters to this forum. It seems unlikely that GNetters are disproportionately unfortunate in the psychology of their relatives, or are better able to diagnose the condition than the professionals.

Furthermore, it may be that much unpleasantness is actually the result of a two-way breakdown of a relationship because of a clash between two personalities. We rarely get both sides of a story on GN, and so we often rely on a poster’s angry or bitter diagnosis of somebody who has hurt them, often over many years, as the basis for a discussion. I often wonder how the other person would describe the GN poster if we could ask them.

As soon as I see someone using that term about another person, it tells me at least as much about the person using it as it does about the subject of their complaint.

I shall now don asbestos underwear and await a flamefest.