Children in shopping trollies

Shopping trollies are designed to safely sit one toddler, which I did. If my older toddler got cranky, she was plonked in amongst the germ covered shopping which, I am sure had as many germs on the packaging as were on the trolley.
I am from the school of thought that immunities must be built up and being too clean leaves us open to infections.

I don’t have a problem with children in trollies.

crazyH

Sperm?????

Who knows what goes on up the meat aisle

I had never done this as a healthy strong young woman with children i could lift them into the seat no problem. But since having covid last year on the couple of occasions i havehad to take 2 year old gs in with me i have had no strength to lift him on the seat. He is too big for it anyway.
I have had to lob him into the trolley which i felt was better for other shoppers than wandering about and quicker. I will no longer judge people who do it they may not be strong enough or there bladder isn't either!

While I understand the hygenie aspects I just want to give you an idea of what it is like shopping with children.

Most of us work full time , with no other support around and bringing children is the only option.

Children by nature don’t always obey and stand nicely while doing a 45 minute shop.

My own child has autism , will not sit in the seat and will become visibly distressed and won’t renter the shop unless in the trolley. If I don’t put her in she will only be carried around the store (aged 6) which is almost impossible.

I think at times just a little compassion sometimes is mums make “poor” choices because they are the best of a bad lot and really doing our best to juggle the demands of small children and daily tasks . It’s not done to cause upset or worse anger at these choices.

Shopping for me is stressful enough if someone approached me saying this I would actually be distraught and deeply embarrassed , but please be kind when approaching parents it’s a tough time for all of us.

clair1966

Redhead56

I did a hygiene course the dirtiest objects in shops and retail were found to be shopping trollies. (No I don't have the source of info it was two years ago). Tests carried out in random shops produced results that were shocking. Excrement sperm pubic hairs phelgm it doesn't bare thinking about. I agree children should not be sitting in them. The next dirtiest objects were high chairs the same bacteria was found on them too.

Life really is too short without the virus to be wasting your time worrying about what other people are doing, sort your own life out before you preach to the masses

clair1996 what a totally unwarranted, rude and unreasonable comment to make! Redhead56 was not in any way, shape or form preaching to anyone. She was simply commenting on the results found during a course she was taking, and expressing her own agreement with the OP's view, which she has every right to do. You need to chill out, and learn that you shouldn't take your own bad temper out on other people.

I feel for you Mammy. When he was little, my DD put her autistic son in the trolley as you mentioned, but he had sensory problems, so she had to take a blanket to put in first.
All the same, I dislike seeing children in trolleys for reasons already mentioned and one immense bonus of COVID is the chance to spray and wipe down your trolley before using it. I wish they’d maintain the spray and wipe opportunities if we're ever ‘free’ from this virus.

Since covid arrived we spray trolleys with Anti- bacterial spray

I got told off for that. Apparently I was supposed to spray the paper towel provided and then wipe the trolley!

Unigran4

A majority of posters seem to blame the parents for allowing their children to sit inside the trollies and eat random, unpaid-for food.

Who brought those parents up? Each one of those parents, must be one of our daughters or sons. Just saying.

Wow - brilliant comment, of course you're absolutely correct. Wish I'd thought of that myself!

Riggie I’m surprised that you ever wasted resources by spraying directly through all those holes. That’s what the paper towel is for.
An additional bonus, if the hand sanitiser comes out too fast you can always mop up your hands and use the excess on the towel to sanitise your trolley or basket.

I am still confused about how sperm could get on a shopping trolley?????

Sorry, I don’t mind children being in trolleys as long as the parent keeps an eye on their safety. Preferably in the child’s seat though. It is so difficult shopping with young children, Before lockdown I had to do it with my granddaughter on occasions I had to shop on my nannie daycare days. At least you know where they are!

Alison333

I am still confused about how sperm could get on a shopping trolley?????

Well. If someone were to get it onto their hands (I couldn't possibly imagine how this might happen, but bear with me), and not wash or sanitise, then touch the trolley, or something that went into the trolley, I suppose it might.

We are told to beware of things like communal crisps or nuts in pubs for the same sort of reasons, aren't we?

Basically, people are revolting . Nevertheless, if we all run scared of germs and other nasties, we would never build up immunities of any sort. Obviously we have to be more careful in a pandemic, but otherwise, it's best not to think too hard, and keep a bottle of sanitiser in your bag.

sympathise, Hithere. I was a single parent with two young children and no nearby help. I HAD to take them shopping. There wasn’t any online shopping in those days. In the present crisis , even if grandparents live near enough to help , it isn’t always possible or advisable to ask them to look after the children to go shopping. Online shopping add extra expense to a shop and, sometimes , substitutions aren’t suitable. My daughter got tinned beef curry instead of vegetarian mince ! I’d advise using the cleaning materials provided by supermarkets or stay home and use the online shopping facility.

Oh please. Can we show a bit of patience and tolerance and understanding. Do you really think most mums enjoy going shopping with all their children in tow? Do you think it is something they actually choose to do. Don't you think they would rather be strolling around with nothing to concentrate on except what to cook for dinner?. I don't think anyone has died from eating food that was put in a trolley that a child had at some point sat in. It may not be particularly nice, lots of things aren't, but just give the poor harrassed mums a break. I am aware that many of you were the most amazing mums in the history of the world ever and managed to raise children that were absolute paragons of virtue who would never ever dream of being naughty or upsetting mummy, but not everyone in the real world are that wonderful or lucky. I would much rather see a child sitting in a trolley than racing around the aisles. And they are relatively safe!

Basically, people are revolting . Nevertheless, if we all run scared of germs and other nasties, we would never build up immunities of any sort. Obviously we have to be more careful in a pandemic, but otherwise, it's best not to think too hard, and keep a bottle of sanitiser in your bag.

The germphobics could even wipe down all their food packages with hypochlorite solution (baby sanitising fluid) when they get home, before taking them into their sterile living quarters...
(I'm not altogether sure how all the food in the packages gets contaminated in the trollies (trolleys), though.)

There is a definite physical safety issue with children in shopping trolleys. I'd say it is very inadvisable to do it, but I appreciate the difficulties some parents seem to have with their children at large in a supermarket.

Kalu

Shopping trollies are designed to safely sit one toddler, which I did. If my older toddler got cranky, she was plonked in amongst the germ covered shopping which, I am sure had as many germs on the packaging as were on the trolley.
I am from the school of thought that immunities must be built up and being too clean leaves us open to infections.

I don’t have a problem with children in trollies.

Absolutely! Some people are obsessed with germs almost to the point of OCD - if we never encounter these things, our systems will never build up any immunity. Were all the folk never allowed to play out in a garden, in the dirt or whatever, as a child? Basic hygiene is one thing, but it is possible to go over the top with it.

When Waitrose opened in our town all the yummy mummies were there with their offspring (not so) fresh from school. All the little boys were sat on the edges of the low, open fridges and no one told them not to do it. I did complain but I don’t suppose it made much difference.

When did it become unfashionable for young children to wear reins? Surely they are the answer to stopping them running off or being lost? As someone else has commented, you can clip them on to the trolley seat for safety, and I suppose, if you really had to put them into the trolley basket they could be clipped into that to stop them falling out.
I think some car safety seats can be detached- maybe there should be some way of attaching them to the front of a shopping trolley?

Thank you Molly , most of mums would much rather be shopping empty handed but in today’s world it’s rarely possible .

I remember my own mum shopping and we children would be playing in the street while another neighbour kept an eye on the gang. Us”yummy mummies” (which is a bloody awful term) have children with us all day every day outside of when we ourselves are working.

I like the spray for hygenie and it should be kept for not just kids shoes but all the other reasons on this post!!

I also think people forget what it’s like to raise children and seeing so many complaining to stores and actually approaching parents makes me just really sad that , as generations we can’t support each other and the different challenges we face at our various different times in life !

Most things we buy are already packaged and so won’t touch the trolley anyway. We can wipe our shopping when we get home if we wish. IMHO the pandemic has brought out the worst in some people who are now ridiculously aware of bacteria and hygiene. It’s not good to live in a sanitised environment. Do what you feel is appropriate and leave other people alone.

Completely agree

Galaxy .... are you scared of possible impregnation ?
Sorry

Most people defending children sitting in trolleys are assuming it's busy mums trying to control 2 or 3 toddlers, but that's not always the case, I've often seen 2 parents with just one (rather large) child in the trolley and I don't see the need for that.

Yup 5,6 or even 10 second rule for food on floor in our house, but actually often nearer two or the dogs grab it first !

“dolphindaisy

Most people defending children sitting in trolleys are assuming it's busy mums trying to control 2 or 3 toddlers, but that's not always the case, I've often seen 2 parents with just one (rather large) child in the trolley and I don't see the need for that.”

It’s just not your business though !! Goodness gracious me, we are all different, it’s no-ones business but the parents what they or their children do, unless it s illegal or dangerous, and we all need to just chill out a bit !

What a bunch of judgmental moaning minnies we can all be !