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Pronunciation

(67 Posts)
RosiesMaw Sun 05-May-24 11:07:18

Why do some people refer to Turmeric as “tuemeric” ?
Burn, turn, spurn, murmur…… confusedconfused

Wheniwasyourage Thu 30-May-24 14:54:18

Don't care. I still think scallops sounds correct and scollops sounds silly, so there!

Baggs Thu 30-May-24 14:50:23

Scallops is the correct spelling. Scollops is the correct pronunciation.

Baggs Thu 30-May-24 14:49:52

Aveline

Yes. Just checked and my phone changed what I wrote which was scollops. I don't know why some people pronounce scallops as scollops!

Scollops is correct and scallops is an alternative because most people don't know that scollops is actually the correct version.

I was one of those people so I looked up the word in dictionaries that give phonetic pronunciations. /skol'ep always comes first. Sorry, can't seem to do the schwa for the e.

Romola Thu 30-May-24 14:20:33

What about these?
February pronounced Febuary oh dear. Prefer Febry.
Probably pronounced proberly, also oh dear.
Prefer probly.

NotSpaghetti Thu 30-May-24 13:49:38

Magsymoo - this is ^Pedant's Corner!

I think we all know - but we are allowed to dislike things just the same.
grin

Magsymoo Thu 30-May-24 11:02:16

We all need to chill about so called ‘mispronunciations’. English is not a phonetic language. So many words , for all kinds of reasons , are not pronounced as they are spelt - bough, dumb, chaos etc etc

hollysteers Thu 30-May-24 10:47:59

I flinch when people pronounce the g in tagliatelle!

Parsley3 Thu 30-May-24 10:03:34

Scallops pronounced as scollops sounds pretentious to my ears but I do know that it is a regional thing and my complaint is not at all valid. So no criticism intended to any scollopers.
Turmeric is tur-mer-ic when I can actually remember what it is called. My word retrieval is dire at times.

Sparklefizz Thu 30-May-24 08:41:49

Turmeric pronounced too-meric gets me too.

Mischievous pronounced mis-chee-vee-ous annoys me.

But I call scallops "scollops" blush

NotSpaghetti Thu 30-May-24 08:33:51

When did ogle start being pronounced "oggle" (like toggle)?

I've heard it a lot recently and twice this morning!

Witzend Mon 06-May-24 09:15:55

Aveline

Yes. Just checked and my phone changed what I wrote which was scollops. I don't know why some people pronounce scallops as scollops!

I call them scollops.
Ditto a ‘scolloped’ (scalloped) edge to something.

JackyB Mon 06-May-24 09:09:55

I was annoyed by "vineg-er- rette" recently. It's vinaigrette, like regret.

Elrel Sun 05-May-24 21:42:01

At one time ‘mare’ and ‘mayor’ were pronounced the same. Over the past few years the latter is often pronounced ‘May-or’.
That is not what we heard on Children’s Hour’s Toy Town. Larry the Lamb used to bleat ‘Mr Mayor, Sir’ as ‘mare’.

crazyH Sun 05-May-24 21:34:45

From the horse’s mouth - ter - mer - ick

Elrel Sun 05-May-24 21:32:23

On a Radio4 food programme there was a conversation with one broadcaster saying ‘turmeric’ and the other ‘tewmeric’. I asked my Indian co-grandmother who was definite that in Allahabad it was ‘turmeric’.

Macadia Sun 05-May-24 21:21:07

I say /ter-meric/ but everyone else says /too-mrik. I don't know which one is correct. Also, I say /skahnz' and everyone else says /sconez/ so I don't know who is correct but my mum always made /skahnz/. It's funny.

Aveline Sun 05-May-24 21:11:36

😯

Callistemon21 Sun 05-May-24 19:56:18

Aveline

Yes. Just checked and my phone changed what I wrote which was scollops. I don't know why some people pronounce scallops as scollops!

Oh no!

And I say scollops.
But never order them so that's ok.

Callistemon21 Sun 05-May-24 19:55:40

SueDonim

My MIL was raised by an ayah in India from the age of six weeks and she pronounced turmeric as ‘tumeric’. I think that’s as genuine a pronunciation as any! She said it was considered back then (1920/30’s) as a low-class ingredient, only to be used if you couldn’t afford other spices.

Oh my goodness, I have just realised I call it tumeric! I always thought the DD were pronouncing it incorrectly as turmeric blush but, being a kind Mum, never corrected them.

Aveline Sun 05-May-24 19:36:12

Yes. Just checked and my phone changed what I wrote which was scollops. I don't know why some people pronounce scallops as scollops!

HowVeryDareYou2 Sun 05-May-24 19:32:58

Aveline

How about scallops pronounced scallops?

Scallops pronounced scallops - how is that?

fancythat Sun 05-May-24 14:42:27

RosiesMaw

Why do some people refer to Turmeric as “tuemeric” ?
Burn, turn, spurn, murmur…… confusedconfused

Because I thought that was how it was spelt! grin Didnt realise it had two rs.
I just asked my DH how he pronounces it. He said "timeric"!

TerriBull Sun 05-May-24 14:00:50

My late father in law always called saute potatoes sortie potatoes, I did mutter once after he'd said it several times, "potatoes still looking for the way out then" but he just gave me a blank stare, so I shut up after that!

ExDancer Sun 05-May-24 13:49:03

Then there's 'scones' smile

grandtanteJE65 Sun 05-May-24 13:42:58

Basically, I believe we all pronounce words as we first heard them or were taught them.

I certainly talk of tuemeric, not turmeric, as that is what everyone I have ever known who uses the spice, calls it.

I also say tomato with a long, dark a, not tomayto, and like most Scots can hear and say a difference between which and witch, which I believe other native speakers of English cannot.

How we actually say words is as much subject to regional variations as grammar is.