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Is it me - cheater or cheat?

(26 Posts)
Witzend Thu 05-Mar-26 11:20:37

I keep seeing (mostly on MN) ‘cheater’ in the context of a dh or dp having affairs.

Is it me (illogical or not) but isn't a person who cheats, a cheat?

MiniMoon Thu 05-Mar-26 11:26:52

I would think so too * Witzend*.

Graphite Thu 05-Mar-26 11:29:47

Both are correct.

However, OED defines cheat as someone who is a systematic or habitual cheater.

Cheater One who cheats or deals fraudulently; a deceiver; a swindler. (A systematic or habitual cheater is now called a cheat n.1)

If someone is having many affairs, they are a cheat. Just the one, a cheater.

Netherbyg84 Thu 05-Mar-26 11:41:34

Extra marital affairs used to be referred to as being "unfaithful".
Is this word now considered old fashioned? I wonder why.

Basgetti Thu 05-Mar-26 12:24:58

Yes, cheat. Or Arsehole.

MT62 Thu 05-Mar-26 15:38:02

Basgetti

Yes, cheat. Or Arsehole.

😂

MammaTJ Sun 08-Mar-26 13:36:29

Either way, they're out the door!

Missiseff Sun 08-Mar-26 13:49:35

MammaTJ

Either way, they're out the door!

Not always, because some cheats are good at lying even when found out

Sleepyhead52 Sun 08-Mar-26 14:32:39

I think this is another Americanisation that has crept into our language. Someone who cheats in any sphere and to any degree is a cheat. A cheater is a misspelled bag cat!!

Sleepyhead52 Sun 08-Mar-26 14:34:49

I think this is another Americanisation that has crept into our language. Someone who cheats in any sphere and to any degree is a cheat. A cheater is a misspelled big cat!!

Nanny27 Sun 08-Mar-26 15:00:08

Cheater just sounds odd no matter what the OED says. In my book one who cheats is a cheat

Azalea99 Sun 08-Mar-26 15:15:15

As @ Basgetti says. Or should I say ‘like what Basgetti says’?

Doodledog Sun 08-Mar-26 15:23:14

I guess it depends on whether you believe in redemption. Someone who cheated at Monopoly as a child was a cheater. If s/he never did it again, are they a cheat?

If you have a sherry too much one Christmas does it make you a drunk, or did you just get drunk?

WithNobsOnIt Sun 08-Mar-26 15:37:37

Love this.

WithNobsOnIt Sun 08-Mar-26 15:40:09

Netherbyg84

Extra marital affairs used to be referred to as being "unfaithful".
Is this word now considered old fashioned? I wonder why.

👍👍👍
That term seems to have sunk without trace.
Sign of the times?

Graphite Sun 08-Mar-26 16:53:50

Isn’t this about nominalization, turning a verb into a noun?

Verb to write. Noun writer.

Verb to read. Verb reader.

Verb to post. ^Noun poster.

Ergo - verb to cheat. Noun cheater.

Early references to cheat as a noun referred to the dishonest act not the person committing it especially in thieves’ cant. The cheat was the thing which was stolen.

Dylis Sun 08-Mar-26 17:06:36

Isn't a cheater a wild cat who inhabits the African plains?
Cheetah!

NannaFirework Sun 08-Mar-26 17:10:32

I am 66 this year.
Lived with my DP for 13/14 years and was in a relationship with him, living separately, for approx 3 or 4 years prior to moving in with him.
Left for 12 weeks year before last, but after lengthy discussion and heartbreak returned ‘Home’ when he agreed to Divorce and become Engaged to Marry me.
Long storey short; since moving back in, although now Divorced, he will not discus Marriage.
One of his ‘children’ (40 this year) will not see me or let his children see me.
DP sees my ‘children’ and their families.
AINBU thinking he is never going to Marry me?

Witzend Sun 08-Mar-26 17:13:41

Nanny27

Cheater just sounds odd no matter what the OED says. In my book one who cheats is a cheat

Ditto. The only ‘cheater’ I’ve ever been aware of is a ‘windcheater ’, not that anybody ever calls them that nowadays.

Polremy Sun 08-Mar-26 17:18:55

Yes. You are right!
Language is so important. Please can we protect it.

Polremy Sun 08-Mar-26 17:20:06

Arsehole works too!

MaizieD Tue 10-Mar-26 10:12:16

Polremy

Arsehole works too!

Or, 'cheating bastard' grin

I'm afraid that the word 'cheater' immediately makes me think of the big cat..

I don't think that we can do much to protect our language apart from use it how we consider to be correctly. It won't make much impression, though 🙁

Oreo Tue 10-Mar-26 13:34:49

Yes I think that’s true cheater is an Americanism that’s crept in.
A husband who cheats on his wife, in other words was cheating.

VANECAM Sun 29-Mar-26 23:57:27

A Cheater is a large spotty wild animal that runs very fast through fields, surely?

TheSunRisesInTheEast Mon 30-Mar-26 01:59:50

NannaFirework

I am 66 this year.
Lived with my DP for 13/14 years and was in a relationship with him, living separately, for approx 3 or 4 years prior to moving in with him.
Left for 12 weeks year before last, but after lengthy discussion and heartbreak returned ‘Home’ when he agreed to Divorce and become Engaged to Marry me.
Long storey short; since moving back in, although now Divorced, he will not discus Marriage.
One of his ‘children’ (40 this year) will not see me or let his children see me.
DP sees my ‘children’ and their families.
AINBU thinking he is never going to Marry me?

You don't appear to have a reply to your question, so here's mine ...

You've been with this man for years, some of that time he was married to someone else, so he was cheating on his wife with you. That probably has something to do with why his adult children don't want anything to do with you, you split their parents up. How confident are you that he won't cheat on you? Some say a leopard doesn't change its spots.

Have you asked him why he doesn't want to marry you? Why is marriage important to you? Marriage wasn't important to him. He broke his marriage vows with his wife, do you trust him to only have eyes for you?

I'm not about to give you relationship advice, just food for thought, you have to decide whether you want to be with a man who led a double life and left his wife and children to be with you, who now that you're living together, is reluctant to make you his wife. How does that make you feel? I hope that despite everything, you're actually happy together.