I wish I hadn't volunteered now

I wouldnt use anything but diluted biological soap powder, anything else will just attract them to pee in the same place again. Stick it in a spray bottle. Hope that helps

Elainel - i have rushed nappies with express delivery tomorrow. Hoping that will solve the problem indoors. Someone else suggested taking them out separately so i will try that but i expect there will be some whining. My other half was visiting (he usually stays weekends) as he saw my dilemma and took the older one while i took the pup for a walk, which worked well. So well we were gone for an hour and the pup did a poo - yay.
Smileless2012 - will do as you suggest to encourage her and what a wonderful suggestion, I will open that bottle of Prosecco i have chilling in the fridge...once we're back from last walkies!!

Nanaandgrampy - no the pup was not housetrained. DIL has MS and other health problems. She has an always open backdoor to garden so i suppose the pup got used to that. I think she might have tried harder if she had carpet and not laminate floors.
They have their first meal AFTER our walk at 8, but if i feed them before when we get up, surely they will soil everywhere after a night's break while i get their food ready? I really wish i had a garden as I had with my dog. She used to go out there first thing, then i fed her and we went for a longer walk mid morning .
I have two crates i borrowed which i leave them in when i (rarely) go out but they whine.
I bought the splitter lead yesterday but they don't pee or poo if i use it.
Oriel - good idea, will try it
I have express deliveried puppy nappies for tomorrow for pup to wear indoors which should hopefully deal with my biggest stress.

Scenting the training pads with her wee is an excellent idea Smurf and giving loads of praise when she does go outside as well as a little treat when she comes inside again.

Quite a stern verbal reprimand when she goes in the house might help too and then taking her outside as soon as you've seen she's had an accident.

As for the other other issue, I've never had to cope with a bitch in season but can imagine how difficult that must be.

You're going to need a lot of patience, that's for sure.

to cheer you up and aor your favourite tipple probably wouldn't go amiss.

Have you tried baby nappies? My DD used these for her dog in heat and seemed to work.
On the walking front - I know it would take twice as long but could you take one at a time?
Good luck x

Now this truly is my idea of hell.

Not with dogs but with son and dil 2 cats .after 3 days we just wanted to take them back home and if I had a key I would have done and just gone round to feed them. They kept us awake all night every night with using the stairs and banister as an adventure playground .They scratched wallpaper in the sides of window sills . They terrorised my dog.They would pounce from nowhere and scare us to death while watching tv .
Hope you start to relax a little but just having a puppy is like having a new baby and very stressful so I imagine you are in for a right old couple of weeks with the two of them.

Oh no! It sounds like you've got a difficult two weeks ahead of you. Our dog was a real handful when he was young (Border Collie) so you have my sympathy.

I wonder if you dip one of the training pads in her wee and lay it down she might go on the pad next time? It may be worth trying. If it works then I'd go and buy a good supply of them.

For walking, can you get a fixed length of lead and one of those adapter things which enable you to walk two dogs on the single lead. Is there anywhere you can go to let them have a really good run off the lead during the day? With a bit of luck if you can tire them out a bit it may calm things down. Have they got indoor toys they can keep themselves amused with?

Good luck!

I'm so sorry for you , it's lovely you're helping out but with no garden or accessible outdoor space this was always going to be a challenge.

For the pup - is she house trained at home ? I think there are 2 options. Firstly , more walks without the other dog. Do you walk directly after food - that's when they like to poo quite often.

Or a crate /cage. They rarely soil their sleeping space and it can also keep the two dogs separate.

At this stage I shouldn't worry about the humping , your daughter needs to deal with this , but quite honestly you can only battle on so many fronts.

You can get a handy gizmo that allows you to clip 2 ordinary leads to it and avoids tangling but it won't work with an extended flexi lead.

It's going to be a long 2 weeks I fear . Good luck !

Yes. My stepson gave me a packet left over from his dog. I have placed so many around it looks like snow on the carpet but she still manages to find the gaps!

Oh dear, does sound a bit of a problem, but if the puppy isn't properly house trained, it's not going to be easy.

Have you tried those training pads that you put on the floor, preferably near the door?