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Fennel Thu 03-Oct-19 18:01:40

I'm not scared of dogs in general, we've had a few and loved them. Not now as we live in a busy city.
But in my working life, when I did home visits, I was often confronted with a GS and became very cautious. Never actually attacked TG.
But today I went to talk to our neighbour, and saw her 2 GS females outside in the back yard, playfighting, and thought, they're just like other dogs. They came sniffing up to me at the fence, all friendly.
Do you think they're different from other dogs?

Ngaio1 Thu 03-Oct-19 18:07:20

They are highly intelligent dogs. The troubles can start if a. They are from a puppy farm and not well bred. b. The owner does not teach the dog correct manners from the start. If the dog can boss the owner it will try to boss other humans too.

GSD's are a one person dog really. They do not take notice and want affection from people they do not know.

My best friend's mother bred them and her dogs were a lovely stamp. Rock solid temperaments. A joy to own.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 03-Oct-19 18:14:15

No all dogs share the same DNA, but they do have characteristics bred into the breed.

Mine is a terrier, so mice, rabbits, squirrels etc send him into delirious excitement.

Not sure what German shepherds were bred for, perhaps the clue is in the name.

But what I do know is that dogs entirely reflect their upbringing.

So my little terrier, has never challenged a human of any age in his entire 10 years of life. He is totally laid back and relaxed around other dogs unless a male dog has a growl and he will always growl back, but never if it is a female.

So in answer to your question, I suspect that they are entirely fine, but with this proviso - unless I know the dogs and owner very well indeed and have spent time in their company I would never enter their territory unaccompanied by their human owner.

lemongrove Thu 03-Oct-19 18:17:45

When they were the dog of choice (1950’s and 60’s) they were badly interbred.My father once had to kill one as it turned on it’s owner ( a woman) a neighbour who’s screams alerted him.
He was gardening at the time and took the spade with him.
He saved her life.
They are beautiful dogs, but I wouldn’t have one.

MissAdventure Thu 03-Oct-19 18:19:01

My Nan had German shepherds, and they were very unpredictable (apart from being able to predict that they usually bit somebody, given half a chance)

My Nan wasn't a good owner, though.

jusnoneed Thu 03-Oct-19 18:54:09

If well trained they can be fabulous, badly reared they can be terrible - much like any other breed.
There are two sisters who both live near us, one has two GS and the other has 3 or 4 at any one time. They are the most well behaved animals you could wish for, one word from the girls or their children and the dogs do exactly what they say. They always make me smile when they walk towards you two or three abreast, then you hear "get in" quietly spoken from one of the girls and the dogs fall in behind them and close to each other so you can walk past them. They are taught from puppy to walk on the lead with the children - when the kids were 4/5 it was a case of who's walking who sometimes lol.
An old friend always used to have 2 or 3, they live out on the Somerset levels with no near neighbours so the dogs were a bit for security and would always bark if people they didn't know were around. But they were soft as could be once they knew you.

Auntieflo Thu 03-Oct-19 19:31:11

I have always loved dogs, and as a child at home, we had various waifs and strays. My dad was a real softie.
Mum had friends who owned a large GSD, and when I was about two, was found snuggled up to him, under the kitchen table.
Our DD and SIL have had two. The first one was enormous, a real beauty, and gentleman. We always felt that we could trust him absolutely.
The second one was different. He had a look in his eye, but never hurt anyone, or anything.
I just had this feeling about him, and never loved him, as I loved the first one.

Fennel Thu 03-Oct-19 19:44:01

Such interesting replies.
Our neighbour is an old man ( same age as me 83) and is currently in hospital with a serious problem. His daughter is holding the fort at home, but I fear for the future of those dogs if their master doesn't come back.
In the past, when we lived in the country, we've helped out a bereaved neighbour with a dog (not here) but Old Bill was a gentle spaniel mix.

MamaCaz Thu 03-Oct-19 19:51:07

I have been bitten just once in my life, when I was a child (I was walking home from Brownies, minding my own business, when it came racing out of the driveway of a of a house as I was passing), and that was a German Shepherd!

phoenix Thu 03-Oct-19 20:08:55

Many years ago a friend had one that was a "reject" from police training , as he wouldn't do the "stolen handbag" chase thing! (The dog seemed to think " you haven't bothered me or my handler, so what's the problem? ")

He was the most wonderful boy, calm, gentle and kind. I have photos of DS1 aged about 1 year cuddled up with him.

I've known snappy dogs of all breeds, spaniels, terriers, you name it!

Overall, I'm inclined to think it's not so much the breed, but the breeding, plus the way the puppies are handled and socialised.

janeainsworth Thu 03-Oct-19 20:22:52

I’ve been bitten by a German Shepherd, when I was sixteen and doing the Christmas post.
At this particular house I could always hear the dog barking as I approached, and sometimes it would actually grab the letters, presumably with its teeth, as I put it through the letterbox.

One day it didn’t bark.

Instead, it sneaked round the side of the house and leaped up at me. I was terrified. It bit a hole in my anorak and penetrated the skin on my elbow which I’d raised to defend myself.

I’ve never wanted to keep a dog.

trisher Thu 03-Oct-19 20:32:33

We were talkng about these dogs the other day. We had one when I was a baby. There are photos of me sitting in my pram with the dog sitting next to me and my hand is out holding its ear. The dog came from my dad's army unit. It was well trained and apparently would guard me and my pram if I was left outside a shop. I think you need to know the dog's background and training but then almost all dogs can behave badly if they are mistreated.

sodapop Thu 03-Oct-19 20:58:23

GSDs are fantastic dogs but they they do need training and exercise to be good family pets .
I agree with Trisher and phoenix all dogs need to be well treated, socialised, and know their place in the family hierarchy.

Jane10 Thu 03-Oct-19 21:23:22

I love GSs. They make excellent police dogs - obviously well trained and their handlers are devoted to them. Here's a pic of one with his puppy walker. Just gorgeous.

Iam64 Thu 03-Oct-19 21:39:03

I love GSD's as well. They were bred in the 19th century by crossing various herding and guarding breeds, if my memory serves. As with all dogs, the key is in the breeding and training. These are intelligent, powerful dogs with a strong guarding instinct. Anyone thinking of owing one should research and find a reputable breeder, health tested puppies and with good temperament back through the lines.
They make great police dogs and work with the military.
We've had them in our family and they've all been gentle, kind, clever dogs but they do guard. I always felt totally safe walking my GSD - people respect them.

maddyone Thu 03-Oct-19 22:02:04

My cousin had a German Shepherd Dog when I was a child, my cousin was much older than me and is profoundly deaf. A group of louts attacked him at the railway station one day because he didn’t answer when they asked him the time, obviously he hadn’t heard them. A friend of his was a policeman and knew of a young German Shepherd that had proved too soft to work as a police dog despite training, and which therefore required a home. The friend was able to arrange for the dog to go to my cousin, and of course, he was never attacked again. I loved that dog, he was so soft, I used to cuddle and hug it whenever they came to visit. I was only a little girl at this time, but the dog was absolutely patient and placid.
I think it normally depends on how the dog has been raised, but obviously some dogs simply have a pleasant gentle nature, whatever the breed. To be honest, I’m far more afraid of those awful Staffie dogs, they do have an uncertain disposition.

Namsnanny Thu 03-Oct-19 22:03:42

Beautiful dogs! Well trained and well exercised, they cant be beaten.
I agree with sodapop, trisher and phoenix

MawB Thu 03-Oct-19 23:22:17

Standing up for staffies!
They are not “those awful Staffie dogs” - loyal, gentle (yes!), the are reliable dogs and actually very good with children.
The dogs who give others a bad reputation are dogs whose own background and living conditions are dysfunctional. You could a easily find a vicious, snappy poodle, springer, border terrier , Jack Russell whatever. Do not confuse American pit bull terriers with Staffies or indeed dogs from good homes with owners who have trained them well with dogs bred or owned by dysfunctional humans to look and act in an aggressive way. ?

Willynilly Thu 03-Oct-19 23:33:32

Absolutely MawB! An 'uncertain disposition', what tosh!

BlueSapphire Fri 04-Oct-19 00:08:41

Would only ever have a German Shepherd! We had one, pedigree, and from a well known breeder when we were first married. Her great grandfather had been Crufts Supreme champion. She was the sweetest natured, most even tempered dog you could wish to find and when the babies came along she was exactly the same with them. She was a brilliant house dog for me when DH was working abroad on long trips, and would sleep in the bedroom next to me. Trusted her implicitly.

DD has a GSD now and she is so similar to our beloved Missy, and we have had her to stay several times when DD and husband were on holiday.

They were bred as sheep dogs, as the name, and if we went out on walks with the DC ours was never happier than rounding us all up, as they do with sheep. We used to play hide and seek, and hide behind trees, but she always knew if one of us was mssing, and came back to look for us to make sure she knew where we all were. It was a sad day when we had to take her to the vets, after 12 years of devotion.

ElaineI Fri 04-Oct-19 00:53:41

DD1 was knocked over by a friendly GS when she was 20 months and has been terrified of all dogs ever since. Her DD my DGD was out picking brambles with us in woods few weeks ago. 2 ½ and not very happy around dogs. Medium size dog came bounding up to her - friendly but trying to sniff/lick her and she became hysterical. Owner elderly lady arrived - oh dog won't bite, just wants to sniff/make friends and instead of securing dog kept trying to talk to hysterical child about how friendly dog was. Meanwhile I am trying to lift screaming child without hissing "just remove the ...... dog now!" So now history has repeated itself and DGD now terrified of dogs. Seriously owner should have approached dog and removed it away with a quick "Sorry dog just trying to make friends" and exited.
Today out for walk near house on grassy patch with DGS2 age 18 months (no fear of anything!) who loves dog dogs and young lad nearby with GS not on lead. GS staring at DGS2 so picked toddler up and moved elsewhere as I just don't trust the dogs. Maybe I am wrong but have had to treat many adults with dog bites - some life changing - so I don't think I am wrong to be cautious. Not all were GS though - smaller dogs can be quite vicious too.

newnanny Fri 04-Oct-19 01:11:25

Like all dogs how they have been raised and are they are treated daily will affect their temperament. I keep my 2 Lhasa Apso dogs on leads whilst out walking them and really wish others would do the same. They run free in our large garden.

EllanVannin Fri 04-Oct-19 08:31:55

I had one for 12 short years before he died. He was the love of my life and so very intelligent and loving. What a dog. He slept outside my bedroom door and never left my side.
He was always on a lead when out walking and was brought up with my GC, so patient and so knowing.

I never once saw another side to him but saying that I probably wouldn't have had control of him if anyone had ever broken in or attempted to-----then again I wouldn't have stopped him either.

sodapop Fri 04-Oct-19 08:38:05

The poor old Staffie gets such a bad press thanks to a few terrible owners who train them to be aggressive or fight. They make wonderful companion dogs and are excellent with children. As every dog does they need a caring sensible owner.

Tedber Fri 04-Oct-19 10:35:41

Another vote for German Sheps. Like Trisher, my parents had a GS when I was a baby (who used to sleep under my cot) and when my kids were young I had a GS (who didn't sleep under their cots) In another era of my life I had the good fortune to work with GSD's. Brought up well, GSD's are so disciplined and obedient. They do make excellent pets as well as working dogs but they have to have the correct training.

Like any breed you can get some bad apples but more often than not any problems lie with the owners who do not take the time and trouble to research and understand their breed of dog.