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Daisymae Sun 10-Apr-22 14:03:27

Walking recently in the countryside when two dogs came charging towards me and my elderly dog. They def. were running with 'intent'. I had no option but to pick my dog up. The owner was out of sight around the field bend, I could hear shouting. These two continually and aggressively jumped up. I just kept turning my back to them, naturally got covered in mud. The owner appeared still calling them, but they ignored her until she got them back on the lead. She apologised and I said it was OK, but obviously it's not. I think that if your dog(s) have actually no recall then they should be kept on a lead. In this instance one on a lead would have done the trick. This encounter could have had awful consequences.

Germanshepherdsmum Wed 13-Apr-22 13:50:23

There are lots of pedigree dogs in the rescue centres as well as crossbreeds. All mine have been pedigree GSDs, simply because I love the breed. But yes, too many people want a dinky handbag dog or something really fierce looking - in the latter case usually men who haven’t a clue about how to look after them and keep everyone else safe.

Spice101 Wed 13-Apr-22 14:02:15

Germanshepherdsmum

*Spice*, why exactly do you think that taking in rescue dogs encourages the breeding of more puppies? People who only have rescue dogs wouldn’t dream of buying puppies and I assure you that there is, unfortunately, no shortage of rescue dogs waiting to be rehomed.

In my experience most rescue dogs start out as pups bred by puppy farmers. They are sold in many cases to unsuitable owners who cannot cope with them and end up as rescue dogs.
While there are people happy to take these dogs on it means that the puppy farmers can continue to breed and not have any responsibility for the welfare of the dogs. If they cannot sell the dogs they off load them to a shelter. Look how many of these dogs arrive in the UK from Romania, or Ireland or various other countries.
Of course there are many people who take on a rescue dog and give it a loving home but there are others that do not want that responsibility or to deal with possible issues that a true rescue dog may have and want a puppy - preferably one from a Kennel Club registered breeder.

Germanshepherdsmum Wed 13-Apr-22 14:26:08

I would politely suggest that your experience of rescue dogs may be limited Spice. Dogs are rescued for a myriad of reasons and none that I have had originated in puppy farms. Some will have of course. Others have belonged to people who have died or are no longer able, through financial difficulties or disability, to look after them. Others have belonged to people moving into accommodation that prohibits pets. It’s sad that rescue centres are needed but puppy farming is by no means the major cause that they do.

JaneJudge Wed 13-Apr-22 14:27:58

MayBee70

Our whippet has no recall so she stays on lead when there are other dogs around. But we are always having dogs run up to her. Because of previous attacks it stresses us out.

same

TwiceAsNice Wed 13-Apr-22 15:16:22

We moved house 5 months ago. 6 houses on a private road, we are the house at the end. Number 3 house has a dog who came into the garden the week we moved in and frightened one of our cats straight up a tree, owners in next field too far away to do anything. We had a terse conversation then with dog still not being controlled.

Fast forward a few months dog has been in our garden barking at us or outside workmen twice more and we have got owner to come and get him , totally useless pathetic apologies. The other neighbours say “oh it’s just name” .

I have had enough and have told daughters if it happens again I am going to their house and saying if he’s not controlled and In our garden again I am phoning the police. Stupid people !

MayBee70 Wed 13-Apr-22 15:28:12

Contact your safe neighbourhood officer at the council.

TwiceAsNice Wed 13-Apr-22 15:32:00

Perhaps I will Maybee thank you but will they do anything around private housing, or does it only apply with social housing?

MayBee70 Wed 13-Apr-22 15:46:57

Ours was really helpful when our dog was attacked, but he is an exceptionally helpful guy! He said no one should feel unsafe in their own neighbourhood. I’d make a point of saying how scared you were of the dog. Not sure if you can get a crime number for the dog entering your property as well but it might be worth asking the police if you can have one. Gives you more ammunition. I know someone who had a neighbours dog get into her back garden and savage her dog (it survived, thankfully).

Spice101 Thu 14-Apr-22 01:16:20

I should clarify that I am not in UK but do have many close associations with UK people who are involved in the dog world in various ways.

I have been extensively involved with Rescue dogs albeit in my own breed.

How many dogs produced every year do you think are produced by KC breeders? In Australia only about 17% of dogs produced every year are bred by registered breeders.
Where do the others come from?

Unfortunately here, and I'm sure in other countries as well, some registered breeders are less than ethical.

If people want a rescue dog that is great but no one should be made feel that buying a pup as opposed to buying a rescue dog is morally wrong.

Apologies for going off thread. In order to get back on thread I'm firmly in the camp of dogs being on lead when in public places. I have been fortunate enough to have acreage so the dogs getting good off lead time has not been a problem for me.

nanna8 Thu 14-Apr-22 09:44:46

We have had a few rescue dogs over the years and they have all turned out ok except for one beagle who was friendly and happy but totally untrainable so we rehomed him to a farm with another beagle. He ran off without a backward glance with his new friend so I am sure he had a happy life , more than we could give him. One of our rescue dogs saved one of our babies from falling into a neighbour’s backyard pool. He was a collie, wonderful animal,we loved him so much.

Libman Thu 14-Apr-22 12:21:40

grandtanteJE65

Fortunately, I live in a country where it is illegal to let your dog off the lead unless you are in a park or wood where there are signs up specifically permitting dogs to run loose.

And even in those areas dog owners who have no control over their dogs can be fined, and as dog owners must be insured against any damage their dogs do, you can claim damages if you or your own dog or anyone or anything else is hurt.

This is a common complaint on Gransnet - why do you not all seek to have the law in the UK changed on this point?

We couldn’t even get that the government to uphold the law on illegal gatherings/parties/soirées…..

TwiceAsNice Thu 14-Apr-22 12:38:00

Thank you Maybee you have been very helpful

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