Cocker spaniel waking up very early

I suppose the difference is that we don't have a gate and our bedroom is on the same floor as the rest of the house to which the dog has complete access - water, all the furniture she cares to crash out on and her basket.

She never wants to get up in the mornings. We are up by 7 and sometimes we have to encourage her out to the garden after we've had our breakfast. She's a lazy toad.

We don't even close our bedroom door and she never tries to come in until invited. Different with older dogs I suppose, but it just seems to be the result of a routine formed from day one.

I’ve always had rescue dogs too Coastpath and always older, never puppies or very young dogs which are more easily rehomed and always shepherds. It’s so important to consider what a dog’s needs will be, and how they will fit into your life, before getting one isn’t it? I know nothing of springers but someone upthread said they are very active. So an older person wanting a lie in every morning might have been well advised to consider a dog of a less demanding breed and age and also to have the dog sleeping in their bedroom. Anyone who’s ever had a baby knows they can forget sleeping in for a few years! Dogs are no different and as with babies some are a lot more hassle than others.

My daughter gives her Mini Schnauzer a Lily’s kitchen nightime biscuit at bedtime which is very calming. My spaniels never had as strong a bladder as my whippets and were a bit prone to seeing out of excitement. I still adore spaniels but find them very emotionally needy. I’d try dap diffuser, outside for a wee as late as possible, nightime biscuit, radio.

Spaniels are generally really clever so there will be an element of human training going on

Weeing not seeing…..

Our dog Teddy loves his crate, we put him in at around 10pm, cover the crate with a blanket on three sides and we never hear a peep from him until around 7:30 when DH gets up as he has always been an early riser. When DH went to Canada to visit his sister about four years ago I put Teddy in his crate later at around 11 or 11:30 and would go down the next morning around 8:30 but he probably would have stayed in longer. He is a nervous dog but when he is in his crate nothing bothers him: thunder, fireworks, heavy rain or strong winds have never bothered him when he is in his crate. The vet told us they are a safe haven for dogs. He has a comfortable mattress and soft blanket to lie on and a water bowl is fixed to the side of the crate.

Unfortunately I think the owner hasn’t bought a breed that suits her lifestyle. Spaniels are working dogs, up at dawn and ready to go. They need a lot of play and enrichment, and are better suited to a young family living rurally than a lapdog style life.
My advice would be when the dog does the unwanted behaviour is to go down stairs, say NO! firmly in a low boring voice while ignoring eye contact with the dog then going upstairs. The dog will eventually realise that scratching at the gate will not reap any reward. Consistency will be key to training successfully.

It's probably needing a wee that initially wake the dog and also light mornings.

Once a wake its time for his day to start, he is rested and bored.

If he was let our for a wee would he then be happy playing and chewing a Kong?

Spaniels are working dogs and need to keep their minds as well as their bodies very active.

Personally I would get up with the dog and and have a nap later.

Mornings are for both dogs and young children, especially at this time of year, about breakfast and a run., preferably with a ball!

Embrace the day ? ? .

Perhaps yu should contact Graeme Hall!

Thanks again for the replies. I do think there is quite an element of the dog training us. He is such a determined little character. He is well behaved during the day, well mostly! I take him to training classes every week which he loves. If I could just crack this early rising he would be more or less perfect. He did sleep in a crate for the first 6 months which worked very well initially but as he grew bigger he seemed to need more space to move around so we got rid of it. I will try a diffuser though and a bedtime biscuit.

We have had a dog previously, a different breed, and he loved his bed. I know they are all different. Our other dog liked sleeping late but was not as good with other dogs and children as our current dog so I suppose no dog is going to be perfect in every way.

JaneJudge you have hit the nail on the head I suspect. I’ve got a cocker, and he is too clever for his own good, he is always pushing the boundaries. He’s always slept downstairs since he was a puppy, and never makes any noise during the night, 9.30 and he’s out like a light. However he was a problem in the morning at about the age yours is now (teenage dog don), he lay in his bed and whined like only cockers can. Have you tried letting him out in case it is a nature call, but don’t switch any lights on or speak to him, when he comes back in give him one small treat (I use a piece of carrot). Still don’t speak to him, and go back to bed. Mine got the message that way after a few attempts.

We live in a semi rural area and are fairly active. Perhaps we might have been wiser to get a quieter breed with hindsight but he is a loveable, happy little dog. We do love him but underestimated how energetic he would be. He makes us happy, if tired and keeps us young

I take him to training classes every week which he loves

Our cocker spaniel loved dog training classes and was one of the best dogs in the class, anna7

However, once out he was like a child let out of school. 'Yipee, I'm free, now where's the nearest cowpat or filthy puddle to roll in?'

@cason we have tried exactly that but he just kept on and on whining and scrabbling . Maybe we should try again . Thanks for everyone's input. Very interesting

@callistemon21 Ours is exactly the same. Does everything in class perfectly. Forgets it all at home

It's really difficult when our dogs don't behave as we expect or want them to. It seems to me that you are loving and kind owners anna7 and are doing your best.
Like GSM, we have only had rescues, but each of ours have been different although all 3 have been Border Collies.
I have to be up and out by 6.30am other wise Finn is barking by the door. I also have to sleep downstairs with him but that is another story.
Good luck Anna, he is only young so I'm sure that things will work out for you.

DillytheGardener

Unfortunately I think the owner hasn’t bought a breed that suits her lifestyle. Spaniels are working dogs, up at dawn and ready to go. They need a lot of play and enrichment, and are better suited to a young family living rurally than a lapdog style life.
My advice would be when the dog does the unwanted behaviour is to go down stairs, say NO! firmly in a low boring voice while ignoring eye contact with the dog then going upstairs. The dog will eventually realise that scratching at the gate will not reap any reward. Consistency will be key to training successfully.

We've smaller spaniels who get up when we do (though I'm usually up about 7ish). One sleeps in DDs room, the other on a windowless, small landing with a stair gate and a couple of cats who jump the stair gate if they feel like it.

If he’s 18months I think he’ll soon be growing out of any destructive behaviour. I still have a cupboard with a chewed corner that one of my spaniels chewed when she was a youngster. Cockers are nowhere near as energetic as springers. I once thought I’d switch to another breed and looked at springers and labradors and a breeder told me that if Labrador’s need a lot of exercise (and boy do they need it) springers need twice as much! But cockers just always want to be with you. I don’t think mine would sit down while they were awake: always on the move, always wanting fuss and attention. I found that tiring. Having said that I miss having a dog that I can let off lead and know it has recall. My whippet is wonderful in the house, a complete lap dog, but a nightmare to exercise safely. No recall and 0-35mph if she spots something. My spaniels never got on the furniture either and couldn’t reach onto work surfaces to steal food. I can’t even have a bin in the kitchen with my whippet. Dogs have amazing clocks in their heads. I started giving mine a bonio at 3 pm and now, no matter how deeply she is sleeping, she wakes up at 3 pm and asks for her biscuit. I had a play session at 11pm a few weeks ago and now it has to be a nightly ritual…again she comes up to me and asks to play.

I had an English Cocker, and found her very hard work until about the age of 3. She did calm down somewhat then. After she died I vowed “never again”, and have stuck to this!

Our cocker Spaniel is now almost 4. She hated being alone at night - we relented &she sleeps in her bed in our room. When little, she used to wake at 6ish & I’d get up in a daze to deal with her/ play etc. Gradually it’s got later. She now wakes at 7-7.30pm ! Husband usually gets up, let’s her out, gives her breakfast then often comes back to bed for another hour. She now dozes until we’re up and ready to go out walking. Maybe try a version of above?

I’m reading this thread with interest to see if any tips are transferable. My 2 youngest grandchildren aged 8 and 7 have yet to master sleeping beyond 6am. They come downstairs and wake the dog who’s still sleeping soundly! ?

Good morning all. Well I left the living room door open last night night and didn't hear a peep from our dog until 7.20 this morning. Result I thought but unfortunately he had had an 'accident' in the living room ? so back to the drawing board. He does always go out last thing at night about 11.30 PM. I'm not sure he actually does anything at that time though. He is very sleepy and it's too dark to see what he's doing. Tonight I'm going to go out with him a bit earlier and watch him until he does do something. I'm determined to crack this. I feel so much better not waking up until after 7am.

Glad to read your update anna and the fact that your little man slept through 'til 7.20. Taking him out a bit earlier may solve the "accident" problem.
He is only young at 18 months and has lots to learn, you will get there with him I'm sure. My Cavalier is 4 now and still has the energy of a puppy but we love him and his little antics.
Good luck.

Take a torch out with you at night and on dark mornings! Important to see what they do.