thankyou all so much for the comments,support,advice and hugs,WHENIM the the last time i spoke to my daughter was 28th of may,i had txted her in the morning to say i was going shopping but that i would be round in the afternoon..as normal..but she rang me and out of the blue said she didnt want me to come round in the afternoons anymore,but wanted me to come round in the mornings when my grandson was at morning nursery,when i asked why, she started shouting at me telling me i was to soft with my grandson and that i wasnt shouting at him or even smacking him when he was being naughty, and that she didnt like how when she tells him off infront of me he would come and sit on my knee,me and my grandson have allways been very close and i really think she didnt like it.because i refused to do what she was asking she started calling me names and became very abusive,thats when i made the big mistake of telling her to not bother me again,weve had silly fallouts in the past thats never lasted more than a week.DORSETPENNT there is a third party..my sister has been going round to see her and telling her how heartbroken i am over all this but my sister says she adamant she doesnt want to make up with me although shes not giving her a good reason for it,she also asked her if i could at least see the children but she just says no !!!! she only lives 20 minutes away from me but my sister has now told me she is moving away,it seems very drastic,my mothers instinct is telling me im never going to see any of them again,im soo angry with my daughter for putting me through this after all the help and support ive given her,but at the same time time still love and miss her so need to know how do i get through this ?CRIMSON when my daughter was shouting at me over the phone i told her i didnt need this right now,id had a womb biopsy the day before...she never even asked me how i got on my sister has been visiting her every week but not once has she asked if im ok,so not only have i lost my daughter and grandchildren im also wondering if im dealing with cancer here. ANNEANDGRAHAM sounds like our son in laws are not so different,he has always been very controlling with my daughter but i never really interferred,i just tryed to get along with him just to keep the peace,but i do know that having me out of there lifes is something he has wanted for a long time now,so does make me wonder if hes behind this,but i guess ill never know,i only pray now when the children are old enough that they come and find me.