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Soutra Sun 04-May-14 13:52:31

I agreed to meet up with a friend today for a coffee at our local monthly farmers' market. My heart sank slightly when DH announced he would like to come to the market too (knowing he can't walk or stand for long.) I tried to drop probably not very subtle hints about having a look at what was available and we could shop after my friend and I had had our chat- coffee but relented and said of course he was welcome to join us. Again, perhaps not said with overmuch enthusiasm. hmm. Met friend, chatted a bit when DH arrived beside us with a drink and a panini (o?) Now DH normally has lovely old fashioned manners - always raises his panama hat on meeting and greeting etc, but today he barely acknowledged my friend, and despite our atempts to widen the conversation to include him, he practically ignored us and got on with eating and drinking. He is not very good at small talk, I think as a result of being very shy as a boy/young man or possibly because he has a hearing problem and a feeble attempt at a joke on his part as we were leaving was actually slightly unkind (to me) so I was left wishing that he had either sat elsewhere if he wanted to eat and drink or at least said "Do you mind if I get on with this while you two chat". I have not said any more as he can get very defensive when he knows he has perhaps been at fault, but it really niggled.I don't want my friends to have the impression that he is either rude or grumpy OR to avoid me because he is hard going. sad

Soutra Sun 04-May-14 21:11:26

Thank you both nelliemoser and ninathenana you have made me feel much better!

FlicketyB Mon 05-May-14 14:09:24

If ones DH only comes to an event on occasion and wants to come on a day when you have agreed to meet a friend/go to the hairdresser or whatever. Why not just tell him it is inconvenient and why, then go alone?

I visit an aunt in a care home an hours drive away. On occasion I meet up for lunch with a friend who lives in the area, on occasion DH decides to come with me 'for the ride'. If the two events coincide I just say to DH that it is inconvenient if he comes as I am meeting my friend, whom he doesn't really know. He will quite happily accept that and otherwise occupy himself that day. He would act in exactly the same way if the roles were reversed.

Nonu Mon 05-May-14 14:27:50

I had a friend several years who"s SO took early retirement.

When we would meet he would insist on coming along and was given to making rather inane remarks---- was quite boring really!!

Am afraid our friendship feel by the wayside.

That is the way things go sometimes !

heyho

Nonu Mon 05-May-14 14:28:36

or even " fell by the wayside "

HollyDaze Mon 05-May-14 15:32:33

When we would meet he would insist on coming along and was given to making rather inane remarks---- was quite boring really!!

Am afraid our friendship feel by the wayside

It is a shame when it happens; if husbands or SOthers struggle to contribute and just sit there, it puts pressure on their companions to make sure they are not left out so the relaxing coffee/tea becomes a struggle to include someone.

Purpledaffodil Mon 05-May-14 17:12:24

This all sounds horribly familiar Soutra. My husband can't get out on his own or walk far either. I feel very mean when I go out without him, but if I invite friends to coffee at home, he just sits with us and rather monopolises the conversation. It means you cannot chat freely and so I now arrange to meet people elsewhere. It is more expensive, but more relaxing. Apart from the feelings of guilt for leaving him on his own of course. I tried suggesting he did not join in at home, but he was very miffed. Damned if you do and damned if you don't !

Nonu Mon 05-May-14 17:16:36

Holly
Absolutly
<Le sigh>

FlicketyB Tue 06-May-14 06:59:56

We are not joined to our partners/husbands by shackles. How can a husband/partner insist that they accompany us when we leave the house to visit friends or relations or go shopping or whatever and why should anyone feel guilty if they do so?

JessM Tue 06-May-14 07:23:29

Maybe, flicketyb when one partner has a long period of illness and the other cares for them it alters the dynamic and the relationship ceases to be a full partnership of equals. sad

Soutra Tue 06-May-14 08:11:00

When flicketyb one partner is virtually housebound as jess has said and I think others share this experience it is hard and maybe selfish to deprive them of an outing which they enjoy ( in DH's case the farmers' market). It is not an easy situation and I don't know how I would cope were the roles reversed or , for instance , if I were very old and housebound and living with one of the DC. It's a thought isn't it. Never black and white.

FlicketyB Tue 06-May-14 17:41:40

I can understand when a partner is housebound and not well and leaving the house alone means taking a constant nagging worry about how they are faring with you.

But every carer needs breathing time, when my FiL was seriously ill with Parkinson's Disease and DH (an only child) lived too far away for us to give MiL day to day support, her GP arranged for FiL to go to a Day Centre twice a week, which he was not that keen on, at least initially, so that she had time to herself, to do the shopping and see friends but that breather twice a week meant she was better able to cope the rest of the time. DH would go over at weekends and take them both out.

Many carer arrangements collapse because the carer becomes ill because of the pressures of 24/7 caring for someone, no matter how dear that person may be to them.

Soutra Tue 06-May-14 18:16:00

I think it is over-egging it if I claim to be DH's "carer" but since he has given up driving and can't walk very far ( and you know how often you get buses in the country " arr there be one next Toosday") he is much more dependant on me. OK I moan but I do keep a balance! I can imagine a similar situation if I make it to my 80s/90s and have to live with any of the DDs but I think women are generally more sensitive in these matters. What I am realising is how many of us do have DHs who depend on us whether on account of PD, strokes, heart disease, chronic arthritis, dementia or whatever. Medals all round!

HollyDaze Tue 06-May-14 18:48:01

Well my husband wasn't ill or housebound, he just wouldn't take the hint and followed along regardless - even when it was my daughter and I leaving work together, he'd trot out behind us; short of wrestling him back into the house or risk hurting his feelings (which is what it came to in the end), there isn't a tactful way of dealing with it if they decide not to take the hint.

rosesarered Tue 06-May-14 20:32:22

Soutra you are right, and if roles were reversed, you may like an outing with your DH if you felt a bit desperate to get out of the house.It isn't easy.In the end, it's who do you love more, your DH or your friend?If we outlive our DH's then we get all the time we need to have a coffee with friends.I wouldn't like my DH tagging along either, but if I thought that he wanted to....? [He wouldn't.]He doesn't like 'girl talk'.