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I bet you've missed the Idiot - so here is the next instalment - advice please!!

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kittylester Sun 23-Aug-15 16:05:08

DD has now moved in with her lovely new partner. He is absolutely fantastic with the children and they adore him.

The Idiot is running out of ways of controlling DD but, obviously, there are still the children. It is now 9 weeks since he saw them. He asked to have them a couple of weeks ago (when it was DH's birthday party). Because the children were looking forward to seeing us, their aunts, uncles and cousins, DD had to warn them that they were going to see Daddy instead and, naturally, they were really excited. DD then asked the Idiot if his girlfriend was going to be there whereupon he told her to f-off and said he wouldn't have them.

Today, he said that he is off work next week and would like to have the children. DD said that in view of the long period since he last saw them it might be good to have them during the day at the start of the week and then have them to stay overnight a little later in the week. Again he told her to f-off! Luckily, she hasn't mentioned it to the children this time.

The Idiot still pays the child support (not through the CMS) regularly.

Is there any where she can go for advice on the best way forward? I think she is doing all the right things but she feels she would like more than the support of her Mum and Dad behind her.

She would like the children to see him and his parents, who have not seen them for (we think) 3 months. She will not take them to see his parents as her FiL put his hands round her throat and threatened to hit her last time she went there.

Or, does anyone know any hit men? angry

Judthepud2 Tue 25-Aug-15 20:30:09

Yes same here Kitty. I have 2 other lovely SILs!

glammanana Wed 26-Aug-15 09:08:35

I would certainly insist on supervised contact via SS and if he dismisses it tough on him at least your DD can say later in life that all attempts had been made,I would worry constantly if the children where with the GPs with regard to the history of the GF and the attack on your DD,surely this man must be in his 70s he is just an out and out bully imo and needs to be avoided at all costs by those little ones but I understand your DD not wanting to slated as the bad person who is refusing contact,she must put her wishes first,is this the idiot who now has a new relationship kitty going to form as per his father and his last relationship with your DD he will start manipulating his new partner in the near future so will maybe relent in his haressment of your lovely DD.

kittylester Wed 26-Aug-15 10:14:35

Glamma, we think his behaviour now is a result of his girlfriend dumping him and not being as open to manipulation as DD. That's good for her but not for us!! She is insisting on the children not being left alone with the other GPs. The Idiot tried to play tit for tat on that card but DD gave him short shrift. [apologies for the mixed thingies there, but you get what I mean.] DD saw him out with another woman recently.

Downtoearth, no offence taken. I could get really cross with DD for being so silly, but I don't! My excuse for her was that she was 19, he was late forties, he used the pub where she worked while she was at university, he was flashy confused he appeared to have quite a bit of money. Also I think the fact that she has brothers who are 16 and 14 years older than her had some bearing too.

Having said all of that, I could swing for the sodding Idiot. angry

glammanana Wed 26-Aug-15 17:47:12

Gosh kitty he ceratinly seems to attract a few women doesn't he is he one of those men who must have a woman in his life at all times to pander to his needs ? Good on your DD for becoming stronger with her insistence about the other GPs she will get stronger by the day it took my DD a while but she got there in the end,and I also gained quite a few grey hairs in the process.confused

granjura Sun 07-Feb-16 16:18:38

Arghh Kitty, what is he up to now? As if you didn't have enough on your plate?

Alea Sun 07-Feb-16 17:53:01

I am confused is this still the original thread from August, or have there been further developments?

ninathenana Sun 07-Feb-16 18:05:20

I'm confused too.

Luckygirl Sun 07-Feb-16 18:08:17

I would not want my children to see a FIL who had put his hands round my throat! Just don't bother I say!

I can get you those bullets if it gets really desperate! grin

Elegran Sun 07-Feb-16 18:14:15

There is a big six-month gap between the posts up to 25th August and the ones today, 7th January. I don't think there is any new news about The Idiot.

granjura Sun 07-Feb-16 18:20:51

Do you really think I would post this unless kitty herself had not mentioned the Idiot on another thread. Really... please.

Jalima Sun 07-Feb-16 18:22:16

She will not take them to see his parents as her FiL put his hands round her throat and threatened to hit her last time she went there.
Well, I don't think I would want them to see FIL at all.

Oven beeping, will read and perhaps post later
smile chin up

granjura Sun 07-Feb-16 18:23:45

See 'what small thing would make your life better?

(really Alea, I know you can't stand me, but try to be civil, somehow!)

Ana Sun 07-Feb-16 18:24:33

hmm

wot Sun 07-Feb-16 19:03:39

Oh, here we go.......

granjura Sun 07-Feb-16 19:23:20

I so wish I could edit and cancel my comments- but I can't. How sad- this is not about you, not about me, but about kitty having a hard time. Please, respect that, thanks. So sorry kitty, I truly meant this to be in support.

Alea Sun 07-Feb-16 19:33:11

Granjura
Exactly which part of
I'm confused is this still the original thread from August, or have there been further developments
is in your opinion lacking in civility???

Now I really am confused it seems I cannot post anything without accusations being thrown around. Now IMHO that does suggest a lack of civility.

Jalima Sun 07-Feb-16 19:36:34

Well, I did see the other post and responded on there, so yes, granjura posted too on the other thread and so did I, which some people may not have seen.

So, bearing in mind not many people may have seen it, I didn't think Alea's post sounded out of order. I think she was perfectly reasonable to say she was confused or have I missed something?

Anyway kitty I can understand how you feel and I'm sure you will pick up this thread if you need support.

kittylester Sun 07-Feb-16 19:37:18

I'm OK gj but things gave been caknush with the bloody Idiot until today! He is just a complete and utter A*****le! Send bad vibes please grans. Actually, don't because if he is suffering it's DD and the DGC who have to cope - if she would only let me get my hands on him and his Flipping parents!! angry

Jalima Sun 07-Feb-16 19:37:31

X post Alea (I am very slow)

kittylester Sun 07-Feb-16 19:52:59

I wonder what I meant by caknush! I really must learn to proof read! grin

NanaandGrampy Sun 07-Feb-16 19:56:56

Did I mention I'm a marksman with a pistol , smg and rifle * Kittylester* ?

Oh wait...that might be seen as advertising grin

Alea Sun 07-Feb-16 19:57:48

confused stands for "confused" and I am totally confused
I do not have the faintest idea what GJ is talking about, why I have been taken to task, or (apologies kittylester!in what way I might not be seen to be respecting your feelings.
However, bottom line is that you Granjura never seem to miss an opportunity to have a go at me and accuse me of whatever you feel like.
"Why did I join Gransnet?" Well not to be somebody's kicking boy, and not put up with such random rudeness and vitriol. I don't encounter it in RL, so why on earth should I here.

really Alea I know you can't stand me but try to be civil somehow
What occasioned this gem is completely beyond me , but am I going to hang around for more?
Find someone else to have a go at in future.
(Am I "flouncing"? Too damn right)

Elegran Sun 07-Feb-16 19:59:21

I don't know what you meant by it kitty but it is a great word and worth remembering to use again. It conveys how you feel exactly. He does create a lot of caknush.

Elegran Sun 07-Feb-16 20:05:01

granjura I said much the same as alea when I saw a sudden post on this thread after six months. Would you like to start on me next?

I hadn't seen kitty's post on another thread, so I was confused - well, it was confusing, wasn't it?

kitty sorry to hear that he is acting true to form again. He doesn't learn, does he?

kittylester Sun 07-Feb-16 20:07:19

Because he's flipping thick Elegant!! grin