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1st Grandchild's Christening

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millymolly Tue 09-Feb-16 12:34:14

Hi this is my first posting, please be gentle!

My first grandchild is getting christened at the beginning of March. My ex-husband and I have bee divorced for almost 3 years, I have another partner, her has had a number of girlfriends since and a broken engagement.

My ex-husband has stated that he will not attend the christening (along with the rest of his family) if my partner attends. My partner is wrongly accused by my ex-husband of breaking up my almost 30 year marriage although on a good day he does accept his failings as a husband and father but the majority of the time it's easier to blame my partner as we knew each other prior to forming a relationship.

I feel this is so unfair but am sticking to my guns re my partner attending, he has provided financial support to my sons and has formed good relationships with them which cannot be said in respect f their own father.

I have advised my ex-husband his non-attendance is his choice and he is putting himself before our granddaughter however (as the case for many years) I feel guilty and feel the need to say "oh ok then he wont go and you can go with your family instead"

All comments welcome

Nain9bach Wed 10-Feb-16 10:58:06

Your ex husband is using the only power at his disposal to have a continued hold over you. He is using the situation to have control.
It is your granddaughter's day - let it rest with her parents. It would be a real shame to spoil their day.
It is a Christening - so between you and your ex-husband - which one of you cares about the service and the commitment that the parents and God parents are making on this special day?
If it matters more to you then I would attend. If it does not greatly matter to you then I would not attend the service but would attend the family gathering afterwards. If it matters more to your ex husband then he attends the service but not the family gathering afterwards.
That way both of you can be present at the different parts of the day.

Chichachongawonga Wed 10-Feb-16 11:01:05

Our family had this problem for many years with various partners and ex's and no matter how the host bent over to accommodate them it was always stressful and spoiled christenings and weddings as someone was always put out and causing trouble. I then took control of the situation and told all family members to send invites to all the people they would like to attend and then leave it up to the individual to make their own choice without 'conditions' about whether they wish to accept and attend and enjoy the day for what it was rather than making it about them and their wishes and inability to move on in life. Its worked and even though some people attend and don't actually mix with the 'other' person even the most ardant trouble makers seem to be responding positively. Its as though once the power of disrupting something is taken away from them they have no choice but to act mature and attend or decline and miss out but by their own choice and they cannot blame anyone else or accuse them of taking sides.Everyone is given equal status, not 'rights'.

sweetcakes Wed 10-Feb-16 11:06:46

I agree with radicalnan this is not about the ex this is about the grandchild it's her day I would go with my partner and have a lovely day if he wants to be childish that's up to him, if it was the other way around would he be as accommodating and leave his girlfriend at home I don't think so

Teacher11 Wed 10-Feb-16 11:07:44

I disagree with 'Trisher'. If your son and DIl have invited your partner and want you both to go you should go, especially if you have both already agreed to do so.

It sounds like your ex is sulking and using the situation to manipulate you. And, when you think about it, using a Christening and hurting the feelings of his own son and DIL, is pretty mean.

At all events, you have made your choice and now it it up to your ex to decide for himself whether he will attend his grandchild's Christening.

NonnaAnnie Wed 10-Feb-16 11:33:56

Please don't give into his demands, he will see it as a victory and will expect his own way like a spoiled child in the future. I speak from experience.

Anniebach Wed 10-Feb-16 11:36:00

The first husband is the baby's grandfather , sorry but this is not the grandparents day or step grandfathers day, sadly the choice must lie with the parents of the baby, they will have to decide between the two husbands and the grandparents will have to respect their decision

annifrance Wed 10-Feb-16 11:36:04

Agree with Luckygirl - dignified silence, don't lower yourself to respond to his emotional blackmail and attention seeking. If you DS and DIL ask for your new OH not to come to save an awkward situation (not because they don't want you) then maybe that is the time for you to back down for your son's sake. discuss with them.

Nonnie1 Wed 10-Feb-16 11:47:08

Millymolly, hi,

I'm fairly new on here too.

This is only my opinion given the facts you have stated.

I'm in a similar position to you except my grandson is five and my ex lives abroad.

My partner has been with us for over ten years. He never says what he thinks unless my children ask. He does not get involved in my family's problems but supports me quietly behind the scenes as it were, and also advises them when they approach him.

My son will not allow my grandson to call my partner anything other than his name (which is fine) but he calls me ex 'Grandad' even though the child has only met him three or four times in his life (when they visit) and never even sends birthday cards.

Blood is thicker than water.

Let your son and his girl decide, and accept their decision, or you may find they will resent your opinion, and even say you interfere.

Best wishes

Nonnie1

mrshat Wed 10-Feb-16 12:11:13

I don't usually enter into discussions of this kind, but feel I might have to face difficulties if my GD should be christened. Therefore, if a person, be it family, ex family, friend, is invited to an event (in this case the christening) their attendance, or not, is between them and the person who issued the invitation. Should the invitee (ex husband) decide they could not attend if another invitee (OP partner) had been invited and was to attend, he should relay this to the the person who issued the invitation with apologies for not attending. End of story. This is NOT an issue he should raise between his ex and himself. Blackmail and bullying in my book. Good luck millymolly. Enjoy what will be a lovely day, hold your head high any refuse and further discussion about this with your ex. angry & sad on your behalf.

Cagsy Wed 10-Feb-16 12:20:43

How sad Millymolly, I do feel for you. My husband is step dad to my older children and Grandad to all their children (4 of them), we have a younger son together who is his only child.
Fortunately my ex and current get on well and we are always together for family occasions, for example he always has Christmas dinner here with us all.
I think as parents and adults we should try and put our children first and put aside our grudges at such a time. Your poor DS and DiL shouldn't have to consider such issues at this time, perhaps he should tell his Dad to grow up.
I can't imagine how hurt your partner would feel if asked not to attend and he seems not only far more important in your life but your sons' also. Loathe as I am to give advice I'd say you and your partner should go and leave your ex to make his own mind up, emotional blackmail is very unattractive.
Hope it ends up being a wonderful day for you all

Irenelily Wed 10-Feb-16 12:41:24

Presumably your son and daughter-in-law sent invitations to both you and your partner and to your ex-husband and girl friend. You have accepted. It is up to your exhusband to either accept or refuse. Really any dialogue should be between your son and his father.
I understand the feeling that all parents have "rights" but surely the baby is the important one and the grown ups need to be civilised!
We have had this with weddings. Before I married my 2nd husband I was invited to the weddings of histhree children. He sat on the top table with his ex-wife on each occasions( she had married and divorced my first husband by then!!) that was OK by me. Unfortunately it's life these days. I wish you well and hope your son can sort this with his father.

GrandmaH Wed 10-Feb-16 12:49:58

I do sympathise. My ex & I had a problems at first- family weddings etc. but when 1st GC arrived we decided to be civilised about it all & it works OK now. He had a reason to be stroppy as I left him & was married to the man I left him for. It is very difficult but everyone has to be grown up about it- my ex & I get on really well now & the 2 men can be polite to each other.
I wonder if your son could have a quiet word with him & explain how important it is to him to have all GPs there & ask him to be big enough to put the past behind him & try to get on for the sake of the new GC & any more that come along. It's not going to be easy at first but if everyone is considerate it can work in the end.

hapgran Wed 10-Feb-16 13:50:32

These situations are never easy. My ex husband and I have always both attended family occasions with our current partners as we have always tried to put our children's feelings before our own in such circumstances. Definitely not easy and it takes goodwill on both sides. I am sorry your ex cannot see this...

DianneAngel Wed 10-Feb-16 15:46:48

MillyMolly your ex sounds like he is still trying emotional blackmail and manipulation. Not just of you but your DS and DIL. Don't pamper to his fantasies. You and your partner go to the Christening, enjoy yourselves and try to ignore him. Let us know how they Christening goes. hugs

micmc47 Wed 10-Feb-16 15:52:10

Congratulations on your first Grandchild, Milly Molly. Your ex-Husband's ultimatum, which is what it is, is an attempt to continue to exert control over you and your life. Please recognise that it is his emotional baggage, and not yours, and very firmly leave it with him. If he decides not to attend, so be it, and he will have to take ownership of the fact that he has chosen not to be there for his own Grandchild. On no account must you feel in any way guilty about this. It is most definitely not of your doing. Stay strong, and don't allow yourself to be manipulated, or your Grandchild to be used as a pawn in this cruel game. Disgraceful, petty, selfish behaviour from your ex. You're well rid... .

Synonymous Wed 10-Feb-16 16:00:49

micmc47 Precisely!

maggie273 Wed 10-Feb-16 16:02:00

Hi all this is s subject that I have been thinking about recently. My daughter gets married in April I have just got divorced after 39 years! My husband had moved in with a new partner before the ink had dried on the divorce papers! He now wants to take her to my daughters wedding. My daughter has waited a long time for this day and so have I, I have not spoken to my husband or son in over a year (my son took his dad's side) so I am faced with my X and my Son with her on one side of the room and me on my own on the other. My daughter knows how I feel and wants us all to play happy families ! I am very unhappy about this is should be a family day my daughter is not inviting any of my family to the wedding saying she does not see them and yet she is inviting a non family member who is going to make me feel very uncomfortable. What do you think !

Izabella Wed 10-Feb-16 16:03:02

I think the bottom line is that you cannot be held responsible for a decision made by someone else so don't beat yourself up about it. Life is far too short. Only worry about the things you can change someone told me years ago, and it is a pretty good mantra for me personally.

And yes the abbreviations on this site drive me mad too!! You are not alone.

sweetcakes Wed 10-Feb-16 16:24:38

Micmc47 very well said .

sweetcakes Wed 10-Feb-16 16:31:49

Maggie273 I'm sorry to hear that but I'm afraid your caught between a rock and a hard place keeping your daughter happy and yourself happy, go to the wedding mingle avoid him as much as possible and have fun ?

WilmaKnickersfit Wed 10-Feb-16 16:39:06

maggie273 won't you be at the top table as Mother of the Bride? If there's a top table, usually parents of the bride and groom are on the top table with the chief bridesmaid/maid of honour and the best man.

WilmaKnickersfit Wed 10-Feb-16 16:41:15

PS And your ex's partner would not be at the top table with you.

pamhill4 Wed 10-Feb-16 17:25:22

I don't usually post and assumed people would generally just encourage you to both go regardless. However with some posts seemingly getting caught up with the subject of your partners status in the new family dynamic I thought I'd throw my hat in the ring.
I'm guessing you didn't have this same situation previously, say regarding a marriage, but this will repeat again and again (think child's birthdays, plays, other weddings/funerals etc) so is best sorted once and for all in my opinion. Send Ex a note saying this is not your occasion but one which is for your joint children. Tell him that you'd like him to attend but it is his choice. Not even yours. It is simply to celebrate a new life in your family line. Remind him there will be many more occasions like this where you have to put aside old feelings and forge a new level of acceptance. Admit it is hard for both of you to see the other with a partner but that is how things are and remind him that in future his long term partner will also be invited to family events. Remind him how you must put on a united front together for your children's sake. Keep it light and send it. Then enter into no more correspondance or messages and simply turn up with your partner! If he kicks off it reflects on him only. Don't get involved. And like it or not, a child will see Nanny or Granddads longtime partner as a grandparent, regardless of title!

Chris1603 Wed 10-Feb-16 18:09:09

It is surely up to the parents to invite who they wish to the christening and people can accept or decline as they see fit! and not up to others to approve the guest list.

Your ex is exactly that ex. You have both gone your separate ways. Ignore him, When he see his bullying tactics don't work he will give up.

Tessa101 Wed 10-Feb-16 18:36:49

I feel for you I've been in a similar situation. You have lots of good advise from everyone. I would just like to make one point and that is, please look to the future and the bigger picture,it may make your decision easier to make. This is the very first family get together that you will all be invited to but what about all the others that will soon be on the horizon i.e her birthday parties, school plays the list is endless now you have a grandchild do you really want to have this worry every time you get an invite to a happy occasion. The decision for the christening will affect future decisions I suspect.Congratulations on your first grandchild. And please let us know how the day went. flowers