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MIL - how do I tackle this?

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walterbenjamin Mon 16-May-16 14:50:20

I'm hoping some of you who are MILs already can help!

I find my PIL extremely difficult to deal with. They are very socially clueless, very controlling, and almost constantly rude - talking over people persistently, refusing to take 'no' for an answer when it's a question of someone's preferences (you are literally forced into a position of being rude!), responding quite inappropriately to emotional subject matter, that kind of thing. They also insist that when we are together we do absolutely everything in company - you can barely get away for 2 minutes to go to the loo between 8am and midnight. I am not alone in finding their behaviour a challenge - DH, BIL and BIL's partner also really struggle.

In my case, however, the problem is exacerbated by gender. MIL cannot stop telling me what to do. I am not exaggerating when I say that she never says anything to me that isn't an order or an instruction or a suggestion for how to improve in future. I find it upsetting, patronising, undermining and infantilising (it's often done in the tone of voice you'd use to a child). I am literally just told I'm doing everything wrong and force-fed unsolicited advice. The worst thing is, I don't think she intends to be anything other than well-meaning, but it doesn't feel that way on the receiving end. It is literally 'do this' or 'do that' constantly for 3 days non-stop.

I feel that this makes me sound really incompetent and in need of advice, but I swear I am not - my house is well-run, clean, and I am a good cook and gardener. I have my own career and I hope I'm a supportive presence to my DH. I have had a really rough time of things lately for health reasons (lots of surgery, which has resulted in permanent, heartbreaking infertility) so life isn't going as well as I had hoped at a personal level - and I probably feel more vulnerable to these critiques than a normal person.

I don't feel I can ask DH for as much support as I would like, because he also has a strained relationship with them. He's 44 and a confident, world leader in his field at work - you would never guess that at home, he just goes to pieces around them personally, to the point that he will be so overfaced that he'll physically vomit (outside a restaurant once!!) or be unable to get out of bed with stomach pains. He has had counselling about his father's bullying (he was very angry and violent growing up - MH issues), which helped but didn't entirely solve the problem. Because of this history, I don't feel it's fair to rely on him to 'have a word' or 'sort the problem' out.

I've tried to engage at a more personal level, but they are clearly very uncomfortable talking about feelings or being in any way trusting. They don't speak to us (or anyone else) as people: however long we know them they still just talk about the weather. We see them about 3-4 times a year for a long weekend (they live a long drive away).

Any advice very gratefully received.

walterbenjamin Tue 17-May-16 15:10:34

emily - some kind of structured break where we could do slightly different things for a morning/afternoon session and then meet up later would work well. Thanks for the recommendation. I might start by trying a shorter holiday than a week and work up to it!

I will also buy some Kalms straight away. I need something to take the edge off! PIL are huge drinkers (measured by bottles, not glasses) and I find the alcohol doesn't help me feel calm, so I'm not drinking in their presence any more either.

marmar01 Tue 17-May-16 16:58:57

i tried so hard for DH and DGC to keep the peace with MIL, but after 15 years of taking all her rubbish i had enough, So i stopped visiting. DH keeps in touch and if we meet for weddings ect we are civil, but i my life improved enormously when i was free of constant criticisms and i don't miss the 100s of phone calls per day i used to get.I would keep away if you can.

EmilyHarburn Tue 17-May-16 21:37:39

Have just been on the Kalms website. Seems they have a one a day tablet and a one a night tablet now.

www.kalmsrange.com/

Pills work in part because of the 'placebo' effect. If I want a tablet to work on the first occasion I take it when I don't need it, so it 'works'. Then when I need it I take it before I get anxious so that it works and stops the feeling occurring. I think its too late to take something when one is absolutely worked up. This is when your PIL are taking alcohol. Quantities of alcohol prevent sleep and make you feel depressed and seedy and eventually wreck the liver or the kidneys.

If you feel at anytime you are taking a Kalms at other times when not with you PIL and you want to stop, then swap for a vitamin tablet and the 'placebo' effect will kick in.

If I am with drinkers I do not drink wine or sherry. I have gin and tonic because you can always top up with tonic or bloody Mary's, topping up with lots of tomato juice. Rum and coke is another good one. Wine you can always say gives you a headache. I go for chilled sparkling water in a wine glass and its great. Could be prosseco.

I do hope your DH's talk for work goes really well. If he ever lacks confidence in public speaking I can recommend the Association of Speakers Clubs ( an English equivalent of the Toastmasters Clubs in the USA)
the-asc.org.uk/index.html

Good Luck

walterbenjamin Wed 18-May-16 07:38:21

Thanks emily - I'm going to the pharmacy to get some Kalms today. I think my best bet with the alcohol is simply not to drink with them. Their idea of a G&T is half alcohol, half tonic, in a huge glass!! To me, that's lethal!!

DH is very calm and composed at public speaking - he does it all the time for his job. It's strange how someone can be so confident at work and so utterly lost with his parents.