narcissistic ex-SIL

I agree - karma definitely does do its stuff half fast enough!

When I think evil thoughts about the Idiot I then think about the impact it would have on the children. But, they are young - they'd get over it.

Yattypung Your Daughter is doing the correct thing in not replying to her nasty ex, if she did reply, the situation would get worse and worse, nastier & nastier! I know, my s.i.l is a top of the tree narsist. He took away my D&GC, I haven't seen them in almost 4yrs now. I had a very special bond with my GD, as she lived with me, I chose her name and she was named after me, her middle and last names. Nasty s.i.l, my GD stepdad, even took away her name!!

Your nasty s.i.l will be poisoning your D's child against her, for sure! A narsist's revenge is as strong 8yrs down the line, as it is at the beginning, it never lessens! So beware! Have as little contact with him as possible.

I haven't read any of the replies yet, but I will.

Funny [or maybe not] I was just thinking, before reading these posts, of two policemen knocking on my door, telling me my nasty s.i.l had been murdered and of course I was the prime suspect! But having an iron clad alibi for the time and day for his murder, I was off the hook. I did enlighten them of the hundreds of people that would no doubt wish him dead, as he was a druggy & drug dealer!

Yes Yattypung I wish my Karma would hurry up too

How terrible for you not being able to see your DD and GC for 4 years Yogagirl, you must be devastated, but you are completely right about my DD not replying to his abusive texts....on the odd occasion she has dared to disagree with him, the texts just got more and more vicious and abusive. She does try to have as little contact as possible with him, but sometimes it can't be helped, (GS plays football every Sunday, and he sometimes turns up), but I always try to be with her when this happens. He has a way of twisting everything to his own advantage - even though it was him that caused the marriage to break down - (he was having an affair with a workmate, one of several I might add), he made out it was my DD's fault because she didn't give him enough attention!
I also fantasize about him having a really bad traffic accident - does that make me a bad person? I've never had bad thoughts like this before in my whole life and I don't like it!!

Yattypung, your DD's story is so much like that of my DD. I can identify with the twisting of everything. DGS plays football every Sunday too. His father is a coach so has to be there, but his girlfriend always turns up and intimidates DD. I once asked him why she did this and he shouted abuse at me in front of the players and spectators, turning the tables on me, even shouting that I was having an affair with someone whose name I don't even know. This is his defence mechanism to deflect any guilt away from himself and to leave the other party feeling like sh*t.
Late us hope things improve someday for everybody in our position.

Shysal My nasty s.i.l does the same thing, twist the truth, out and out lies and puts a scenarios that his done onto you or someone else!

Yattypung It's so hard for your D, as of course due to their Son she has to have contact. She is lucky to have you, her dear mum, to help and support her, well done I have bad thoughts too, that I really don't like having, but as my nasty s.i.l has destroyed my once happy, loving and close family, I think I am more normal having these bad thoughts about him & his mum, than not! I try to free my brain as much as I can though, don't want it soiled with thoughts of him!

I often wonder what goes on in their twisted nasty minds. There are far too many malicious warped people out there!

yattypung a few years ago I got so angry with ESIL but it was all internalised as I was too polite to really tell him what I thought of him. I hated the way I was feeling and in the end had to go to counselling. The counsellor just let me get my anger all out in the open and the gave me strategies to deal with it. It really helped, and although the situation still simmers on, I can cope with it better.

But I do know that murderous feeling so well