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Feeling depressed after spending time with family

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JantyK Wed 05-Oct-16 10:00:31

I just wonder if anyone else feels depressed after spending time with close family? My mother has always been difficult but as she is on her own I invite her to come away with me and my two grown up daughters. Often this ends up with my mother siding with my older daughter and ganging up on me in some way - taking the mickey or saying spiteful things and then laughing as if I should take it as a joke. My youngest daughter has noticed it and says it gets her down, too, although she is never their target. My mother has always had a spiteful side - mainly involving being unkind and then saying it was just a joke. My eldest daughter has been very 'anti' me since I divorced her father 15 years ago even though I have done everything for her while he does very little. If I say anything to either of them they get hugely defensive and won't speak to me for ages. My youngest says I should just ignore them both but as an only child of an only child I think it is very sad that our family can't just get on and be nice to each other. Thankfully I do have a close relationship with the youngest, which is a saving grace, but I do sometimes get really fed up with the whole family dynamic when life is so short and I'm trying to create nice memories, not nastiness. I'm sure they don't mean to hurt me but they do!

Anya Fri 04-Nov-16 10:47:49

Try something more subtle like 'Who the f**k do you think you are to talk to me like that?'

GrannyAnnie2010 Fri 04-Nov-16 10:56:13

I agree with Anya.
These "I feel ..." sentences are well and good, but often lost on unkind people.

Fran0251 Fri 04-Nov-16 11:01:33

What good advice, I need it and will follow it also. Thank you all you Grans. smile

MargaretX Fri 04-Nov-16 11:19:55

ome excellent advice here. Its what you learn when counselling. Everyone has a right to their own feelings. If you just say
I feel really hurt when you say things like that to me.
If she says its only joke or you can't take a joke. reply

Thats right. I feel really hurt about it.

Then be quiet. Its a method that you have to practice and so if you then keep quiet or leave the room you won't be tempted to say more or accuse her of something.
She sounds really awful. My Mother in law was like that
I gave up on her just 5 years before she died and should have done it 20 years earlier.

Marthajolly1 Fri 04-Nov-16 11:46:18

I can totally empathise but it's my DD who is rude, aggressive and very unkind to me. I now keep my distance and say very little except for general pleasantries because my DGS and DGD are so important to me. I'm expected to visit for a few days at Christmas but I would so much prefer to be anywhere else.

Bez1989 Fri 04-Nov-16 12:55:57

ELFIES....that's a terrible memory for you to carry alone.
May I suggest you see a respected and we'll qualified counseller to talk about this openly and without judgement. It may help you to get rid of the painful memories and
"move forward" in the rest of your life.
I too had some hurtful things said to me by my mother but it was resolved in a remarkable and truly honest way when I was with my healer friend !
Google...British Association of Councellers.
You can search for one by postcode and read their individual speciality.
Good Luck to you. sunshine

Sheilasue Fri 04-Nov-16 13:13:01

You know the old saying can pick your friends but you can't pick your family. Tell them what you think it's not fair on you.

Jaycee5 Fri 04-Nov-16 13:23:09

Using humour as a form of bullying is particularly unpleasant because if you stand up to it you just get 'can't you take a joke'. Strange how the same person is always the butt of the joke.
I don't think that people who do that are likely to stop and so you can only change the way you deal with it. They know very well that it upsets you.
I wouldn't invite your mother. Maybe visit her, then you can cut it short and leave and you won't be ganged up on.

Jaycee5 Fri 04-Nov-16 13:24:51

Otherwise I agree with Anya. There is no point in trying to be subtle.

GrandmaJules Fri 04-Nov-16 14:25:23

That's an awful way for your mother to behave towards you, big hugs xx

Bluegayn58 Fri 04-Nov-16 14:40:50

I think you've made the right decision JantyK. I too have been in that position with my sister and mother, so I just walked away and now always refuse to attend birthday lunches, shopping and the like. I keep a healthy distance, and no-one has expectations of me anymore - result!

Gangstagran Fri 04-Nov-16 14:52:40

I have a similar problem with my eldest daughter she has virtually cut me off,for the last 16 years.If on the rare family occasion we meet she makes constant disparaging remarks about me .This has happened since I divorced her father ( he had frequent affairs throughout our marriage) his final mistress phoned me to tell me that he did not love.Finally after being hospitalized with depression I filed for divorce.My eldest daughter however blames me &cannot forgive. She has also stopped speaking to 3 o her 4 children,& phones her father when in need of money.iI still find it very painful.

Lilylilo Fri 04-Nov-16 15:27:14

I know this is no consolation but my friend's mother was hurtful and rude until the day she died. It deeply affected my friend, who has had years of counselling to try to get over it. I thought when her mother died she would be full of regrets for a what could have been, but in fact she felt nothing but relief. Speak to your mother now about the hurt she is causing you and if she doesn't pay heed then limit contact.

trisher Fri 04-Nov-16 15:42:56

I understand how you feel and sympathise my mother has made remarks that could have upset me all my life. I have decided it isn't worth confronting her, she would only deny it, I only allow her limited access to my life. That doesn't mean I don't have contact just that when I see her I stick to neutral subjects and never let her know much about my personal life. By doing this I am able to see the funny side of her attempts to be cutting. I am sorry your DD is behaving like your mother, perhaps you shouldn't see them together.

hicaz46 Fri 04-Nov-16 16:16:39

Life's too short to spend time with people whom we don't like a lot or who hurt us intentionally or otherwise. Spend time with those other people who love AND respect you and certainly don't feel guilty.

1974cookie Fri 04-Nov-16 17:50:34

I never trust anyone that makes nasty remarks that really hurt a person, and they then try to turn them around by saying that they were "just a joke".
No they weren't.
Those remarks were meant to wound, and the person who said them knows exactly what they are saying. What makes it worse is when it is a member of your family that does this, it is heartbreaking.
flowers flowers to all of you who have, or indeed still are, on the receiving end of such vitriol.

grannypiper Fri 04-Nov-16 18:50:48

Tell the pair of them to bug+er off and only come back when they have grown up

sarahellenwhitney Fri 04-Nov-16 18:59:33

People who treat others like this usually have problems themselves. Look after yourself be indifferent to them get your self some friends don't forget you can choose friends but not family.

norose4 Fri 04-Nov-16 20:48:12

My sister used to come out with what I would class as spiteful remarks, eventually I took to asking her' why did you say that ' she invariably couldn't answer & she gradually stopped doing it.