Continued support and fun aspects too of rebuilding lives after estrangement can't believe 4 years and we still here to offer help, friendship and support.

I have a question about the moving with no address left? Why would Estranged Adult Children give a moving address to people they dislike, hate, detest, whatever the case may be? And why, if the parents have accepted the facts of the estrangement, would the parents want the address? Be nice, it's an honest question.

Because celebgran you posted for the world to know your DD's career.And again you roll out the same old rubbish "you must have a boring life"etc.No I have a very busy and fulfilled life thanks celeb and 4 GD's who keep me busy as well. Lurking ?? it's a forum isn't it,is that not what one does on a forum.Oh I see this is your "exclusive" place is it,where no one is allowed an opinion. Whether I have tattoos or not is irrelevant, it was the judgemental attitude I was addressing. There are Doctors/Pharmacists/Lawyers etc with tattoos,obviously not on open view, but this doesn't make them a lesser mortal because they like body art. Are you absolutely positive any Doctor,consultant,specialist you ave ever met has no body art.

We supported her for 4 years at uni and another year as pre reg pharmacist. Your post I believe celeb.(confused)

Thank you Luckylegs & Sparklygran In a way it has helped me see there is no hope at the moment and strangely has helped me move on a bit more.

Starlady I'm happy for folk to know who I am, I have done nothing wrong, all I did was love my D&GC with all of my heart & soul, and for that I was 'cut out' by my beautiful GD's stepdad & his mother due to jealousy, & he wanting only his son to get all the love & attention [my GS whom I love too]. If they think they have done nothing wrong, then they will surely be fine with folk knowing who they are & what they have done too.

Strangely, my new next door neighbour [2yrs] I've just found out teaches in my estGC school! I was talking to him, not her, and when he told me the school his wife works in, my mind was saying shall I say, shall I say but I didn't Think I must though as he said she will be moving to another school soon, so I could ask her to find out how they are etc, but would have to tell the story!

Need to dash and take my hair colour off , be back later to read rest of posts after Stars

Yogagirl My ESS works in the same school as my good friend. She tells me everything and when she retires next year she told me she is so mad at him for the estrangement that she wants to say something to him.I never asked her to do do but I cannot stop her.
As I see it at this point you have nothing to lose by asking how your EGC are doing. You don't have to tell the whole story if you don't want to but just say the grandchildrens parents aren't speaking to you. What do you think?

Difficult yogagirl how ever u will only upset yourself gleaning information this way.. I know from experience however tempting it is

Yes awfully sad that it seems v unlikely thing will change yet hero sine hope alive as life changes in a heartbeat.
Thanks Eddy cat for pm advice taken x

Well, glad you're ok with the idea of someone recognizing you, Yoga, then there's nothing to worry about. Again, lovely pictures!

The teacher will not be able to give you any information at all otherwise they could get into a lot of professional trouble please do not put them into that position.

Asking anyone or keeping track is like stalking, you won't feel better and you might fall into law trouble.

Yogagirl you are not stalking by asking it's perfectly understandable action.

I don't expect the teacher will wa t get involved but not doubt she will have sympathy for your sad situation.

It's damn hard enough without people trying worry you over other things,

celeb, I didn't say it is stalking, but it could be confused as stalking and therin the rub.

What in the name of all that matters would be learned that would be worth law problems?

Ok Norah take your point, i understand what you mean

It's horrid to feel so desperate for information I have been there, and feel for yogagirl

Norah, I find your nit picking, judgmental attitude tiresome, that's why I don't respond. Granny grace, some people do not hold your views, in fact the opposite, enough said, on tattooes we shall have yo agree to differ. Thank goodness it's a free country.
For some whose adult children havecdiscontinued contact, because if a bullying and controlling partner, how hard it must be to just stand bye and not be able to do or say anything. Of course they want to know how their families are but cannot go down normal lines of communication because they are ignored, so a bit of understanding should not go amiss when some judge. Bright, intelligent people are almost gently groomed into being controlled, then it's too late.

Morning Girls

Thanks very much for all your replies regarding my GC school. I spoke to a friend yesterday who was a teacher, now retired, and she said the same about not being able to give out info. but I would only be asking in an unofficial way ie: her reply Oh yes, I do see them every day & they seem fine & happy and are doing well at their school work just that sort of thing. But I'll discuss it with my ND, it would be a shame to let the opportunity go, to find out how they are, with my neighbour moving to a new school soon.

Didn't manage to get back on yesterday, so page was left on my last post, so I've just read on from there, now going back to read from Star post as said.

Norah take it by your post that your 4 D have moved & not given their add's to their 'cut-out' m.i.ls then? all 4 of them!

Bibbity is your H a manager at McDonalds?

Luckylegs I'm in the same boat as you, my D moved, I know the area, but not the address.

Watched that 'Long lost families, what happened next' last night, so sad, so moving! When I watch those people searching and longing for their mums & siblings, it makes me think about my estD and what can be going through her mind, we were so close & loving, still to this day I have said and done not one adverse word/thing to her!

"Is your H a manager at McDonald's?"
Just how nasty and personal is that remark. And how demeaning to managers at McDonald's.

Bibity, as far as I am aware, no one has to strip down at interview, it the the appearance of someone and how they come across. Appearance, fitting in with the environment and being one of the team is what matters.

No Yoga. He's not. I'm not stupid of ignorant enough to give out splice personal information.

Now please excuse me. I'm staying with my mum. Who's enjoying spending an amazing weekend with all of her GC. Who know and love her.

Bibbity - talk about rubbing salt into our wounds! You know very well that most of us would love to be spending "an amazing weekend with all of our grandchildren". And we are desperate for them to have the chance to get to know us and love us. Was it really necessary for you to say that?

If Yoga is going to be so rude and petty. Then yes I will match her.
Far to long people have been tiptoeing around certain members and allowing them to say and do things that are quiet frankily disgusting.
Sometimes I can see perfectly well why people would choose not to spend time in such company.

You obviousy take pleasure from being spiteful. I feel sorry for you.

So do you think the same of Yoga? I was only replying to her comment.

Don't feel sorry for me I'm unimaginably happy.

Lucky old you then. You weren`t replying specifically to her comment - you were having a dig at everyone who reads this thread. You obviously have no idea how difficult weekends can be for us - or if you do, you don`t care

Don`t bother to respond - I won`t be replying again

yogagirl several people on here have already told you it would be unprofessional for a teacher to give out information about your GCs.
Your friend, a retired teacher, has told you the same.
So you're going to do it anyway and basically entrap the teacher into doing something that could be viewed as professional misconduct and breach of confidentiality.
Have you really no idea of how your behaviour is perceived by other people?