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PatB Mon 20-Mar-17 13:38:22

Several years since his ex wife moved out (taking his, at that time, very young children with her) my son has just begun a relationship (his first since they left) with a woman he has known for a while. His children know and like her but he thought it best to tell his ex about his relationship rather than the news coming from the kids (he has them for weekends regularly) and seemed to have a "decent" relationship with his ex. However when he told her she was, according to him, "totally obnoxious" about it. He refuses to tell me what she said because he knows I'm still fond of her (after all she is the mother of my grandchildren) but he was really upset. I've told him she's just jealous (as far as we know she has not had any relationships since she left him)and to take no notice but it's left him really down - I think he's afraid she will use it as an excuse to stop the kids' visits (which is what he lives for) and they are still too young to visit without her say so.
We can't be the only people he have been in this situation ... how have others dealt with it?

Gemmag Fri 24-Mar-17 10:30:03

Courts take the view that it is the best interest of the child to see their parents and not the other way round. A mother cannot stop her children seeing their father unless he is an abusive man. The courts recognise that it is the right of the child and not the other way round.

Caro1954 Fri 24-Mar-17 10:31:24

My soon-to-be-ex SiL is constantly changing arrangements regarding seeing his daughter. It makes me mad because it sometimes means that I don't get to see her (maybe that's why he does it?). But my daughter accommodates him because GD wants to see him. He rarely, if ever, puts GD first, never does anything alone with her though she asks him to. He always brings along new, pregnant, girlfriend. My daughter tries very hard to put GD first in every way. It's a tough situation, as yours is, but the child's needs are paramount.

Yorkshiregel Fri 24-Mar-17 10:35:47

There must have been a good reason for the break-up in the first place. Both parents should be able to talk about this after all the time has lapsed, but if you expected her to feel overjoyed that he has found someone else you were mistaken. It is the thought that his new girlfriend will to some degree take her children away from her which is at the bottom of this. She is scared that they will prefer this new woman in your son's life to her. Only natural I think. However I would try not to be pulled in to the dispute. Give your son support yes, be friends with his new lady, but the children's Mother will always be their Mother so you should not try and criticise her in front of the children or you might find that you will be the one who doesn't get to see them anymore. Be careful.

Jan51 Fri 24-Mar-17 11:29:40

When my daughter ended her relationship with the father of her child she told him that she would never stop him from seeing his son but if he was going to introduce the child to a new partner she wanted to meet the new partner as well. Although they didn't become friends they did get on ok and now that partner is living with the father and they have a child of there own my daughter is reassured knowing who is part caring for her son every other weekend. As my daughter said, I didn't want him so why should I begrudge him finding someone else.

MagicWand Fri 24-Mar-17 12:07:30

my son has just begun a relationship

This could be the problem PatB. A lot of the separated families I work with have multiple partners one after another which the children find very difficult to deal with. You say that as far as you know, neither your DS or your exDIL have had partners since the split, so this really is the first new significant adult in their lives. Your son may probably have felt the same way if your exDIL had started seeing someone else. CAFCASS are an extremely helpful organisation in these situations and their website is stuffed full of good advice for everyone involved in or with families where parents have separated.

A lot of separated parents have an informal agreement about introducing new partners to their offspring e.g. waiting until it is a really serious relationship, etc. It sounds as though your DGC have already met this new lady in your DS's life. If he had such a good relationship with his ex, it may have been better for him to tell her about his new lady before introducing the children, but we can always be wise after the event.

This is a new situation for all concerned and trying to see it from all angles is the best way forward. Your DS may be excited about this new lady and want to share that with his DC, equally your DGC may also be excited, and talkative, about this new lady in their lives - we've all been through the experience of the 'wonderful new teacher who can do no wrong' and, if this is what your exDIL is having to endure, it would be especially galling in this situation! Meanwhile your exDIL, may be fielding these comments about the wonderful new lady while trying to deal with her worries about the new lady's effect on your DGC.

They are all going to need your support so I wish you good luck as you navigate your course through this situationflowers.

damewithaname Fri 24-Mar-17 12:53:40

Well your son made a choice to move on and so must accept all that comes with that... like he too would feel if she had to move on too... don't get involved-he's a big boy now.

Ilovecheese Fri 24-Mar-17 15:25:28

The new woman could shower the children with gifts, live in a gold plated mansion and pay for pony lessons, they will still prefer their Mum.
The times when my first husband had a woman in his life after our divorce, were a good thing as far as I was concerned, I always felt he was a bit careless about safety, and a woman, especially if she had her own children, I thought would be more safety aware. I also trusted that he would not be with a woman who wasn't a decent person.
I was never afraid that the children would love her more than me.

grannypiper Fri 24-Mar-17 18:23:20

patB Maybe your exDIL is scared and really does not know how to cope with her feelings.We all have to grieve after a seperation no matter who initiated it. Maybe your son could write to his ex and reassure her that his daughter will all be the most important person in his life and he wont be putting anyone else first. Maybe you could send her some flowers, your relationship with her is worth nurturing.

paddyann Fri 24-Mar-17 19:21:03

its our grandaughter who is distraught that her dad is getting remarried ,she has been fine about the split,7 years ago when she was 3 and her mum remarrying 5 years ago and gets on well with her stepdad and her dads new partner ( the last of a long line of women) but she's not happy he's getting married again.My daughter says she thinks she'll lose her "place" as there are children who will llive with him full time while he only sees his eldest two every 6 weeks or so ,his choice.I wish people who have kids would think about them FIRST before wrecking their homelives for some woman who'll be gone within weeks .Any advice on how to calm my lovely wee one would be appreciated

SaraC Sat 25-Mar-17 20:52:59

I wonder if it would be helpful to focus on the children? They love both their parents and, even though the marriage is over, will continue to do so. Maybe they need a bit of reassurance too, that even though things have changed again for Mum and Dad with the introduction of a new person in Dad's life, they are still as loved by both as they were before. Mum and Dad are, after all, the Adults in this.