Continued support and fun aspects too of rebuilding lives after estrangement can't believe 4 years and we still here to offer help, friendship and support.TWO

Rhinestone I feel glad you feel safe enough to share on here, there are lots of caring est grans on here, willing to listen and share.

I agree, no most of us dont want to walk on eggshells forever. Without safety, feeling safe, loved and respected, we are still (or would be) putting ourselves in harms way.

We have a right to take care of ourselves and to protect ourselves.

celebgran naughty for your back, reaching high up for your summer tops. It must have been all that sunshine, making you feel you could .

I might plan a trip to one of the large antique fairs when they are near to me. I used to go to Ally Pally Antique Fair every time it was on, when I lived in London.

Enjoy your Sundays, ladies.

Thanks sparklygran not had good night but feeling bit better

After shower revived me we went to dance for couple hOurs and was great ? always lifts spirits seeing our friends and music was great did about 5 dances ?? no? Have be. Careful had so much morphine.

I am glad too rhinestone we are like a little family support group.

Today had email from friends away giving lots weekend dates hoping 6 of us can go away together, it's so positive and really cheers me up

Awful news about London ??.

We were there on Thursday life is a knife edge at moment,

Entertaining this evening xxx godparents for Chinese have removed Lemon cheesecake from freezer and garnished with fresh lemon?

Will have tidy but. Meeting our close friends for drinks at lunchtime.

Life is pretty good despite pain !

I will feel sad Thursday little xxxxx. 9 but no escaping that sadness.??
A wonderful gift from God a beautiful Grandaughter but take. Away at 9 months now she is 9 I feel physically sick at all we and she has lost,

Card posted photographed first.

Oooo lemon cheesecake that sounds lovely celebgran and with friends...

Sadness with GC birthdays, especially the eldest who I got to know and love before estrangement, there is no easy way to pass.

Pouring with rain here in Wales .... off to nearby big town today. I hope everyone has a nice week

No sparkly no east way you are right,

We got my dear little great niece and nephew coming Friday for lunch ca t wait see them. That will cheer us up.

So very scary the london incident so soon after Manchester it's awful scarey world

Everyone quiet on here hope all are well

It is winter here wet and cold? We managed get few plants spent most morning sorting house contents insurance got lower quote so result
I felt I. Awful lot pain so we didn't hang about managed get some mince plants at Morrisons ?For those Gardners among js bought another outdoor shrub forgotten name and pretty fjschia basket and tray petunias yellow marigolds and red begonias will set up some tubs when feel bit better, i did the geraniums we over wintered yesterday

Have good week all?

Hi everyone. Did anyone see the interview last night with Lady Lucan? It was very sad.

She lost everything and hasn't had contact with her children for 35 years. It beggars belief doesn't it. She sustained serious head injuries, the nanny was murdered and the police never looked at anyone other than Lord Lucan. At the end of the interview she said all she'd ever wanted was a family and would never understand why it all went so terribly wrong; it made me cry.

Horrible weather here today, and every where going by the forecast. I'll be glad when it's Friday morning and the election is over. I've stopped watching news items etc. because I end up with a head ache and am finding it all rather depressing.

I`m afraid I`ve stopped watching the news too - is that cowardly? Of course I have the greatest sympathy for everyone caught up in the terror attacks but I`m not sure it does anyone any good to hear every last detail of them.

I too saw Lady Lucan, couldn't make out how I felt though. What a strange world she inhabited, the matter of fact way in which she said when at the wedding there were not many guests, but of course there wouldn't be as we were not popular, How she didn't see her children all summer, but it was ok they were looked after, the fact that she only gave them five minutes of her time a day, to teach them reading?in five minutes! It was all very detached, the way she fell in from day one of the the marriage with her husband's gambling, the spankings she just bore. No connection, between husband, children, my heart went out to the Nanny and those children, where were the chats in bed with the children, , the fun the hugs and loads of kisses, the rasberrpries on fat little tummies, splashing in the puddles on wet days, the tough and tumble, they missed out so much. I loved being with mine, always on my mind, could never have left them with a nanny to have all the fun. However, I must say it doesn't seem to resonate with d.

The Lady Lucan interview was very, very sad. Not surprised, though, that she'd had no contact with her children for 35 years as she said she had been 'disconnected' in all her relationships.

Anyone familiar with the song 'The Living Years' (I'm in a chorus and sung it recently) - Google the lyrics. Wonder if it will ever resonate with some AC of estranged parents here. I bloody hope so.

Fairydoll do you mean mike and the mechanics living years?

Wish I could have told him (after dad passes away) in the living years?

Yes very good,

Lady Lucan was a total weirdo couldn't bear to watch or read about her, it was hardly surprising her children didn't want contact with her,

We observed minutes silence at acquacsie

Yogagirl you will see my f book lost photo of my daughter me and xxxxxx day she was born 9 years ago Thursday only one likely to have of the 3 generationsl

Lucklegs it does t resonate with my daughter either she used to come in our bed for cuddles even when she was. Grown up I really really thought my love was returned,

I too feel what strange sort of person l Lucan was but it didn't see programme

celebgran I hope you have a lovely day on Friday with your great niece and nephew, cuddle them tight.

And being another plant person, we had heavy rain here all day but some of my plants have suffered due to the drought we had in April and May. My bedding plants are now getting going with the rain and I have to admit feeding them to get them going.

Fairydoll that song I agree is one I hope all our estAC listen to, a lovely thought - BUT I am not holding my breathe! Off to make last cuppa

I wasn't there that morning
When my Father passed away
I didn't get to tell him
All the things I had to say
I think I caught his spirit
Later that same year
I'm sure I heard his echo
In my baby's new born tears
I just wish I could have told him in the living years
Say it loud, say it clear (oh say it clear)
You can listen as well as you hear
It's too late (it's too late) when we die (it's too late when we die)
To admit we don't see eye to eye

Very poignant

Yes thanks sparklygran will hug them so tight! Xxx

Poignant words. I am a very tactile person and my parents and children, friends etc have always knows how I love them. That's the trouble, I just assumed my d loved me in return, never questioned it, that's why I took such a lot, how can you not love your mom?
Meeting my sister today for a catch up, hope the rain keeps off, I was like a drowned rat yesterday, met friends for coffee nearly got thrown out after three hours, but we did have bacon sandwiches too, can't understand why this extra weight doesn't go.
All of you have a brilliant day.x

Ha ha lucklylegs maybe back sandwiches are t the way to go, but if it's occasional treat whatever, I always cut most fat off mine, if you trim all fat they cook up dry

Stopped raining today but v cold

Enjoy your cuppa out.

I too am quite tactile as was my daughter only more so, yes we are the same how can you not love your mum? My nephews are in bits losing theirs, but it seems we are very unusual and unlucky in regard to our daughters lucklegs x

It's too late when we die says it all.??

Oh dear here I go again meant bacon expect back comes up automatically on this iPad,

Pleased to say only got 2lb go now of holiday weight,
Had salmons with king prawns hollandsise sauce new potatoes and salad for dinner last night,

Oops had large cornishnpasty followed by hot chocolate and mini bounty for lunch
I did go acquacsie tho then slept rest afternoon

I tend do lot of that it's morphine I guess and 60mg codeine,

Dh is going out with ex school friend tonight he worries leaving me and his friend and I are persuading he needs break, we worked out meet 7 30 come back soon after 9,

I will sit in our electric recliner so can get up and down for Rosie !
Who seems to be doing so well bless her. She even jumped on Settee twice last night,

Oh well tomorrow is d day and also my dear little Grandaughter is 9

Not handling it well this year guess all pain making me more emotional
We v v glad to hear from my sister and have invited them round for drinks before after my op for ruby wedding as She was my bridesmaid, and I am happy about that,

Had phone call from d son last night and it made my day we had Skyped him Sunday but he was bit stressed so were we,
He moves on22nd it was so lovely hearing him try work out when we could first visit? He even promised consider going see his sister but v difficult when she won't respond is long journey.
He too very very sad for the baby we all adored now 9 and does not know any of us,?

End on brighter note booked another weekend next jan my daughter birthday and our friends hope come too! I did it while dh at work but he thrilled,

Maybe can get plants in garden later? If we wrap up will be v wet also.

Bacon sandwiches lucklegs and celebgran, cake is my weakness, I just don't understand why I am not a svelte size 12 anymore ?

Wishwas my only weakness; food in general seems to be mine. Good job I go to the gym and Mr. S. and I are walking a lot more than we used too.

There was a knock on our door last night and there were 'our girls' with a miniature rose bush they'd seen, said when they saw it they thought of us so bought it. Their friendship and kindness is quite over whelming.

Hope tomorrow isn't too upsetting for you C. You'll have to try and focus on Friday and those hugs and kisses you'll be able to enjoy.

Better day today, a little chilly but at least we have some. I'll be glad when tomorrow is over, don't think I've ever been so wound up about a GE. It's set to be a momentous occasion in our house as it will be only the second time in our almost 37 years of marriage that we'll both vote the same way.

Good morning ladies from across the pond. Beautiful weather here for several days now. My roses are in bloom and all my planting is finished.
Not much to say today but I finally got into a second shoe yesterday and could even walk. The toe is almost healed. Just hoping your election goes better than ours did. Everyday we turn on the television there's another country that's been offended.
SmilelesdWhat a thoughtful thing for those girls to do. Aren't you lucky to live by nice people. One door closed but another opened for you and Mr. S.
*CelebgranDo you have a date for surgery yet?*

Ha ha Rhinestone. I think we are in a similar position to USA last November re the Election (we were actually there!)

It's a question of between the Devil and the Deep Blue Sea re the candidates, never mind their 'policies'. Just have to vote for the lesser of the two evils....

Not sure if that actually happened in your country in the end. God help us all.

Off to the Polling station for the 3rd time in a year (local, Brexit, General)

Still, guess we're lucky we live in a democracy.

Well on knife edge me Cummings secretarynrang while I was at Acquacise

Said she will ring back after lunch dear husband got no time span.

Bless him?

We voted on way home,

Car park was bursting and seems like huge turnout,
The mp who helped us so much has stood down but will be forever grateful to him for stopping police harassment of us,

Well rhinestone I may have news for youmall later

So glad you can get in a ? shoe now! Smilelss look out competetiiton for us!

If only I would stop buying them boxes all over 2 bedrooms think could be throwback from deprived childhood and second hand shoes maybe!?

Smileless well yes, other food items can be an...issue too. Just settling into a well rounded late middle age.

Commiserations Rhinestone about your political situation there.

Off to vote, God help us all if we loose the NHS.

Well ladies 7th August is my operation date, very tense couple hours waiting for secretary to call?.

At east can start sorting reg clients and already emailed fro dh time off.

Etc etc important stuff like my hairdos?.

Hope we all voted and let's await results, x

celebgran good luck for a successful op and a quick pain free (relatively) recovery. Is it a relief to know the date?

I can see its going to be a long night watching the election results

Thanks sparklygran. Yes is huge relief, I can plan stuff round it now,
Is big operation secretary said eeek am scared but in so much pain there's no alternative

Will be great to be able to move around more,

So pleased that we invited my sister to come for evening drinks buffet just 4 of us for our,ribynwedding after weekend away and she has accepted!
We don't see much of each other but that's pleased me.

Oh dear poor Theresa May we were up getting pain relief at 3am and it was t looking good,
Sadly most peopel just think of the freebies Corbyn promised not where funding comes from, or that he was actually Ira supoorter?