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How do I break this cycle?

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Deni1963 Mon 07-May-18 06:01:05

Some of you might remember me from the beginning of the year. I read every day and debate if to post.
Brief synopsis: I found out Jan 2nd DH had bee having an affair for 2 months and she was pregnant ( I'm 54 and have had 4 losses and two children with ex). Two weeks later a 2nd woman messages me climing to be his gf of 3 months. He moved out. First woman had an abortion but they still talk claiming it's work, and I know he's probably seeing the 2nd.
He's an alcoholic and had been sober 8 years until November last year. He now drinks again.
At his persistent we began talking end of February. In April I agreed to see him - like dating - twice a week providing he was not with anyone else.
Well..... he lives at home. His parents severed all contact with me despite the fact we were very close. DH texts sporadically, ignores my calls and still lies, disappears for nights, claiming he's sleeping or not well. He's cancelled 2 weekend dates claiming illnesses and then off radar.
I'm miserable - I know the situation must end, but how do I sever contact? I find it impossible as just worn down.
When we are together it's as if we've never been apart. And we actually get on really well.
I just don't know how to break this cycle. Or begin a life without him.

Coconut Mon 07-May-18 10:29:38

If he truly loved you he would never have caused you such immense pain. We all make mistakes and maybe some deserve another chance, just the one tho. Yes, liars have to believe their own hype to enable them to sound convincing. We only live once so please take the responsibility to give yourself a chance of happiness with someone who respects you. H obviously sees you kind heart as a soft touch for his manipulation .... fly free today, block his number and see a solicitor ASAP and never look back ... you are worth so much more ?

ddraig123 Mon 07-May-18 10:30:32

A cheat, liar and alcoholic too - you already know what you have to do right?! Get well rid ASAP and move on!

holdingontometeeth Mon 07-May-18 10:32:14

He has probably over the years undermined your self worth and confidence so that you feel you need him.
You say he is an intelligent man, which makes his behaviour even more unacceptable.
He is on an unbelievable ego trip, having women fawning over him.
Would he hurt you like this if he genuinely loved you?
Of course not.
You are worth much more than this. Just tell him to off next time he phones then block his number.
Book an appointment with Relate, you can go alone. It would do you the world of good to speak to a trained, neutral counsellor.
Believe in yourself and value yourself.
I know it is a difficult cycle to break, but only you can do it.
Write two lists, one positive showing what good you get out of the relationship, the other the bad points including the pain that you feel.
Best wishes.

Apricity Mon 07-May-18 10:33:56

As Ramblingrose has said you know this man is a first class bastard - a liar, a cheat and a drinker just for starters. An all round waste of space. Lots of good advice from Grans re blocking ALL contact with him. Just do it!

The real question and personal challenge is for you to understand why on earth you stick with him. And that's the really hard bit, facing up to your own fears and insecurities about what life without him would be like. It will be different but can it possibly be worse? As many, many women before you have found you will be very surprised at your own strengths and the support of your women friends. Good luck. ?

Yorkshiregirl Mon 07-May-18 10:35:31

I was in the exact situation as yourself. Married to a lying, cheating alcoholic who nearly destroyed me. I still lived him, but it took him attacking my son with a carving knife for me to finally rid him frommy life. Best thing I ever did. I regained my self and my self respect. Please dig deep and find the strength to totally ignore him. These people wreck families, and wreck lives xxx

Jaycee5 Mon 07-May-18 10:51:33

I think you need to distract yourself from him. Do you have friends that you could plan a holiday or a short break with.
Then make a decision that you are going to break off all contact the day before the holiday if you are unable to do it before.
Block his number and delete it from anywhere you have it written down.
Then don't talk about him on the holiday. Tell your friends that they are to change the subject if you do. If you find yourself dwelling, pick up a book or turn up the TV.
Taking up a hobby that needs concentration. If you have any craft skills there are many charities that would like things that you make.
Just doing it and then sitting on the sofa to brood is not going to work.
Good luck.

Teddy123 Mon 07-May-18 10:59:55

How do you break the cycle?
Deal with the practicalities first.
Delete him from all forms of electronic contact ie emails phone social media everything.

Teddy123 Mon 07-May-18 11:06:10

Not quite finished!

Then send letter, recorded delivery, explaining that he us to refrain from any form of contact in person, electronic, or Royal Mail.

If he persists I would get a court order to stop him contacting you.

That's the practucalities but surely the fact that he's an alcoholic., a serial cheater and a liar persuades you that he's not the man for you. Surely?

Elrel Mon 07-May-18 11:11:38

OP I was in a similar position many years ago. Recently reminiscing my friends from that time agreed 'And every time you were starting to stand on your own feet he'd come back'.
I did walk away and now realise that, hard as it may have been, it was the right thing to do.
Why are his parents NC with you? Do they think he's better off without you?

LuckyFour Mon 07-May-18 11:18:51

I agree with everyone else. Life's too short to spend it being treated badly. Try to enjoy your own company and make new friends by being a happy, reliable, interesting person in your own right. You do not need this dreadful man.

Saggi Mon 07-May-18 11:19:16

Lose this loser now!

Alimarb Mon 07-May-18 11:25:17

Try and look ahead a little bit, do you still want to feel this way in six months, a year, five years? You're still young enough to find your own way. Have you heard the saying "a woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle"

pinkjj27 Mon 07-May-18 11:26:30

How do you eat an elephants in small chunks. It might seem over whelming to just walk away but deal with it day by day untill it becomes the norm. Ignore his calls today and fill your day tomorrow so you are too busy. Block his emails and text if it makes it easier.
Start loving yourself and do things that please you, go for a walk, go shopping, sit in your garden. Seek out local groups, like keep fit, or craft groups lots of church groups have all sort of events running during the week that aren't remotely about religion. Or the suggestion about Al-Anon. is an excellent one . You will meet like minded people that will support you.
Your in laws have blanked you, do you ask your self why? He is clearly blaming you.

You need to move forward if this was your child going through this would you condone it ? You are worth more but only you can set bar and gain more. I wish you well.

Hm999 Mon 07-May-18 12:05:46

Those of us who endured long term relationships with liars are screaming at you to get out of this, now. Cease all contact, no matter how lovely he is to with.

VictoriaMeldrew Mon 07-May-18 12:40:22

I have two bits to add to the discussion....and I've been there.

1. People will treat you as badly as you let them.
I read that after I'd left my husband and he was being a complete a**e to me and the children.

2. If a friend or daughter told you this was happening to her what advice would you be giving her?
Run that through your brain and see what you say. I think we all know the answer.

My decision was to leave and make new friends and I still don't regret it. Good luck with whatever you choose to do x

sarahellenwhitney Mon 07-May-18 12:48:06

Get rid is my advice
He is not only a cheat but as' dim as' my old gran would have said 'a Toc H lamp'
Getting someone pregnant then her having an abortion? what's to stop him doing it all again.
He is taking you for a fool That you are not
You must make the break once and for all. Its going to hurt for a while but hurt will continue if you don't act now.

Allygran1 Mon 07-May-18 13:59:33

What is it that holds you to this man? First answer that. This really tells us a lot about you. Before you can break this cycle, you have to know yourself. Your own behaviour is what is in question here not his.

He has problems and needs to address them. You are going to have to address your problem and stop focussing them on him. You allow him to treat you this way ask yourself why. Don't say because I love him. No once can love a man who treats them like this.

So stop the romantic rubbish, stop feeling sorry for yourself and stop blaming him. That is the first step in breaking this cycle. I don't feel sorry for you, I feel angry with you, and that is how you must feel, angry with yourself. Until then you have no chance of changing a thing, because you are choosing to be treated like you know what. Find some dignity and you will feel a lot better about yourself.

Sorry if I am not being kind to you. Sort this out. It is not rocket science.

leeds22 Mon 07-May-18 14:05:46

Get rid of him! You are only 54, time to sort out a great new life, without a cheating alcoholic on the scene.

Shesanana Mon 07-May-18 14:07:03

I guess you have to reach the stage where the pain you feel when he lets you down (again!) is greater than the enjoyment you feel when you’re together. I can’t think of any other reason why you’re letting him walk all over you.

Legs55 Mon 07-May-18 14:10:41

My H no.1 was a controlling b*****d, I met the man who became H no.2 & that gave me the courage to walk away from the marriage after 6 months.

H no2 was the father of my DD, when she was 4 I was thinking about going back into Further Education, perhaps a premonition as he walked out on us without a word, I discovered he was living with a woman a few streets from me. He too was a lovely man but unreliable so he got "the order of the boot". I divorced him, went back to College for 3 years which gave me my confidence back (hard work with a small child). Best thing I ever did.

Through a College friend I met DH (no3), almost 23 very happy years with him. I've been widowed over 5 years moved nearer DD & DGSs, made lots of new friends, been to new places, I love my life although I do miss DH.

Lots of good advice on here, you can survive without this cheat & liar. Take small steps, don't try to do everything at once or you will feel overwhelmed & do cut all contact with him. You will survive, you are stronger than you think.flowers

Tokyojo3 Mon 07-May-18 15:19:16

You are in a terrible situation and I feel for you. I was in a dreadful relationship once with an alcoholic man who was both physically and emotionally abusive . I came across a book which changed my life quite by chance and I now recommend it to you . I have lent this out to more women than I can remember . It’s called” Why Charming Men Make Dangerous Lovers” .I t doesn’t cost much and I guarantee you will find the strength to do what inevitably you must. Best wishes.

sparkly1000 Mon 07-May-18 15:49:35

Denil, you say he is an intelligent person, personally I would say he is scheming and manipulating to gain extra-marital sexual pleasures.
You also state that he believes his lies to be true. Why are you still making up excuses for his cheating behaviour?
He is throwing you crumbs of hope and you are scrabbling around picking them up. He is hedging his options.
Let's turn this scenario on its head, if he gets dumped by his latest lady which is likely and by keeping in touch with you and offering crumbs of hope you are the safe haven who will welcome him back only to be cheated on again when the next attractive and gullible woman comes along.

BlueBelle Mon 07-May-18 15:56:34

Deni may I suggest you are involved in an addication you are as hooked to this man and this relationship as a person is on heroin
There is only one resolve and that is one day at a time just like the AA treatment You say you speak most days make it a day by day thing don’t take his calls for a whole day then resolve the same the next day and so on
It’s going o be hard but you have to break this cycle or else put up but don’t complain it’s in your own hands only

moxeyns Mon 07-May-18 18:29:47

It will take 8-12 weeks for you to get over him, with the clock resetting every time you have contact. Just do it!

Madgran77 Mon 07-May-18 18:38:29

No contact at all is probably the only way you can break the cycle. flowers